billiam, they were just top of the tung comparisons , i think that we both could sit here for hours jotting down wrongs and rights of the 5 world , im not a great lover of the removal of items that belong in the car's every day running . I mearly suggested and i quote ''leave the thermostat out for now'' as a temporary solution . and lol yea to behonest a number of the GT TURBOS have been bodged around essex at some point so i find it no supprise items to be missing . lol