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F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« on: 10:22, Tue 22 November 2011 »
hi all,

I have a renault 19 Sport 16v with 1.8 engine inside.
I wanna fit the engine into my GTT,

What do i need to do to engine mounts, in order to fit the engine inside? Is the gearbox the same as GTT''s ?

What do i do with driveshafts? Do i keep the GTT's or do i use 16v's  ??

Guys i need informations as much as u can send me, cause i am taking the enigne out of R19 by the end of the week. :)

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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #1 on: 11:45, Tue 22 November 2011 »
A few of us have done the conversion either in N/A or liek myself and a few others turbo charged

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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #2 on: 13:24, Tue 22 November 2011 »
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A few of us have done the conversion either in N/A or liek myself and a few others turbo charged

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Ok mate, thanks a lot...

Can u tell me, is the engine 1.8 16v the same as clio 16v ? Cause i want to order Forged pistons and con rods for it, so i am thinking if it is the same exactly ?


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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #3 on: 15:26, Tue 22 November 2011 »
Yes the clio and 19 16v engine are pretty much identical so all parts will swap over

You can use the gt box on the 16v engine or even stick with the 19 gearbox but either way the 5 driveshafts can be used
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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #4 on: 16:52, Tue 22 November 2011 »
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Yes the clio and 19 16v engine are pretty much identical so all parts will swap over

You can use the gt box on the 16v engine or even stick with the 19 gearbox but either way the 5 driveshafts can be used


Nice, but for the start, i want to refresh the engine, and run it with NOS, how much HP of NOS should i run on the stock engine ?
I want to run it with nos, untill i get the money needed for turbo conversion, and standlone ECU etc..

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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #5 on: 17:10, Tue 22 November 2011 »
On standard engine i wouldn't personally go anymore than 50bhp hit even if it is set up correctly, if you develop the engine to take more then keep squirting it in mate  :D
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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #6 on: 17:19, Tue 22 November 2011 »
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On standard engine i wouldn't personally go anymore than 50bhp hit even if it is set up correctly, if you develop the engine to take more then keep squirting it in mate  :D

I was thinking either to go for the turbo conversion, or hi comp forged pistons, cams, head work, throttle bodies standalone ecu and  100-150hp of Nos...

I donno, what do u think its better for F7p ?

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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #7 on: 17:58, Tue 22 November 2011 »
Depends what you want from the engine to be honest mate, what you intending to use it for?
I think unless your drag racing it 100-150bhp of NOS is alot to run and for road its abit too much
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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #8 on: 00:40, Wed 23 November 2011 »
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Depends what you want from the engine to be honest mate, what you intending to use it for?
I think unless your drag racing it 100-150bhp of NOS is alot to run and for road its abit too much

I am making a weekend car, that i can take out and street race with it.. Highway etc... and drag 1/4 mile as well :) So i need a lot of power, so i can fuck some of my friend's m3's an shit :) hahahaha

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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #9 on: 16:37, Wed 23 November 2011 »
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Depends what you want from the engine to be honest mate, what you intending to use it for?
I think unless your drag racing it 100-150bhp of NOS is alot to run and for road its abit too much

I am making a weekend car, that i can take out and street race with it.. Highway etc... and drag 1/4 mile as well :) So i need a lot of power, so i can fuck some of my friend's m3's an shit :) hahahaha

You want to go turbo then mate, lower comp abit, set of cams, nice manifold and turbo, decent ECU then run a fair bit of boost  :D
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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #10 on: 01:35, Thu 24 November 2011 »
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Depends what you want from the engine to be honest mate, what you intending to use it for?
I think unless your drag racing it 100-150bhp of NOS is alot to run and for road its abit too much

I am making a weekend car, that i can take out and street race with it.. Highway etc... and drag 1/4 mile as well :) So i need a lot of power, so i can fuck some of my friend's m3's an shit :) hahahaha

You want to go turbo then mate, lower comp abit, set of cams, nice manifold and turbo, decent ECU then run a fair bit of boost  :D

HMMM THAT SOUNDS COOL :) How much power can F7P hold on? I am concidering fitting the forged pistons and rods, so how much can i get from such engine, to be on the safe side? :)

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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #11 on: 09:20, Thu 24 November 2011 »
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I am making a weekend car, that i can take out and street race with it.. Highway etc... and drag 1/4 mile as well :) So i need a lot of power, so i can fuck some of my friend's m3's an shit :) hahahaha

You want to go turbo then mate, lower comp abit, set of cams, nice manifold and turbo, decent ECU then run a fair bit of boost  :D[/quote]

HMMM THAT SOUNDS COOL :) How much power can F7P hold on? I am concidering fitting the forged pistons and rods, so how much can i get from such engine, to be on the safe side? :)[/quote]

Well it's all down to decent fueling, charge temps, mapping and bolt on goodies like turbo etc... turbo ted on RTOC is running just shy of 400bhp, where as myelf and a few other other were around the 240-280bhp on a fastchips high boost chip

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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #12 on: 10:58, Thu 24 November 2011 »
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Well it's all down to decent fueling, charge temps, mapping and bolt on goodies like turbo etc... turbo ted on RTOC is running just shy of 400bhp, where as myelf and a few other other were around the 240-280bhp on a fastchips high boost chip

Hmm, i have on  my own VEMS Racing ecu, for it already, so all i need is the actual turbo kit and forged pistons and rods.
I have no idea how much power on a GTT is actually drivable.
what sort of 1/4 mile time can i look at with 300bhp? including drag slicks etc... ?

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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #13 on: 12:10, Thu 24 November 2011 »
Coops (tungy valver) with a clio valver turbo is running about 260-270bhp and he ran @ pod recently 12.8's


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTwY9jerME

the red one in the link is also turbo f7p and I think it had gearbox troubles both these cars run the fastvchips turbo chips, if you have standalone you will have oppetunity for much better mapping

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Re: F7P 1.8 16v conversion
« Reply #14 on: 18:02, Thu 24 November 2011 »
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Coops (tungy valver) with a clio valver turbo is running about 260-270bhp and he ran @ pod recently 12.8's


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTwY9jerME

the red one in the link is also turbo f7p and I think it had gearbox troubles both these cars run the fastvchips turbo chips, if you have standalone you will have oppetunity for much better mapping

Very nice, but of course R5 is much lighter then clio, so i think with that sort of power you could run under 12.5sec..
If i'd go for turbo F7p spec i would go for:

2.0l williams head
decent cams,
forged pistons and rods
individual throttle bodies with airbox,
turbo GT2876 or GT30
Stanalone ECU
 

I donno how reliable the engine will be @300bhp or more..
I am not sure if the std gearbox can hold all that power... What do you think??


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