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GENERAL => Your cars => Topic started by: denty225 on 22:33, Thu 28 July 2011
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Thought I would start a thread so I can remember all the hard work that will go into this car! It will without a doubt be a long and bumpy road. Collected from Scotland last weekend and drove her all the way home, 250ish miles. Next day she would not start :lol:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/oldblueday1.jpg)
She's showing a bit of surface rust and a few dinks. I'm yet to strip the interior, which ain't too bad, to check for internal rust. Sills have supposedly been done but look a bit suspect to me. Windscreen seal is hanging loose at the bottom and has about a ton of sealant on the inside. Anyone got a windscreen seal spare? Grill and front bumper need replacing. Rear spoiler I actually had on my first ever GT Turbo when I was a lad, so that stays.
Got a haynes manual so started removing bits of engine to see whats what. I flattened the battery trying to start her so took that out to charge and found:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/Batterytray.jpg)
Not much tray or clamp left! Also removed air filter, intercooler and pipes for better access and found these that need attention.
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/intercoolerbaseplate.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/064.jpg)
That bare wire goes to the silver thing in this pic:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/017.jpg)
Anyone tell me what it is cos I can't find it in the haynes manual.
THink I found the starting problem today though:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/020.jpg)
That was the worst, but the others weren't much better!
I've got a big list of parts to order tomorrow now :roll:
The last owner had her for 10 years and most of that she was stored in a shed. I expect there are plenty more exiting challenges within her for the future! Watch this space...
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Looks like youve got alot on your plate there fella but will be a rewarding experience ;)
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The silver thing screwed into your cylinder head is the knock sensor.
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Ah cheers mate. Looks like I can get away with just re insulating that earth wire then.
Do CGB Motorsport still do discounts for club members? I have a basket full of stuff on their web site and was going to ring them tomorrow.
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Yes. 10%
Ring up and ask for Bob, tell him Ash from the forum sent you. :D
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Sorted, parts on the way. Hopefully we should have life from the old girl next week.
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Had a busy weekend with the car. Not got owt else fixed, but found lots more too fix! Stripped some of the interior to check the floor. Only found a bit of rust.
Drivers seat rail:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt18.jpg)
Drivers footwell. I think this is more surface though. The sponge was soaked but I can't see where the water has come in from.
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt19.jpg)
Under the foam by the pedals, no rust further up though!?
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt20.jpg)
I think I will have the sills replaced as I've found some small holes:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt21.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt25.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt24.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt23.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt15.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt22.jpg)
The passenger outer sill was replaced for the MOT last time, bu the side skirt is not right and has loads of silicone sealer along the top! Do I need to replace those inner sills or do you reckon some patching will do?
Of more concern to me is this:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt17.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt16.jpg)
Other areas checked:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt14.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt9.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt8.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt6.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt5.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt3.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt2.jpg)
Not had a good look underneath but some components may need attention:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt10.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt11.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt12.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/rusthunt13.jpg)
The exhaust needs sorting pronto though cos it bangs on nearly every bit of the underside and drove me crazy on the way home last week!
I'm going to need some replacement dash parts too. Or maybe glue the cracks back together and cover all the grey bits with 3d carbon vinyl.
Generally speaking though I'm quite happy with the state of her. Plan is to sort the rust spots out and get her runnig sweet this year and after the winter to sort the bodykit and respray.
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looks a pretty good car mate,few bits need attention ,whats your plans ?
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Plan now is to get her running reliably. Unfortunately it looks like I am changing jobs and will have to work 5 days a week :shock: so will need to use the car for work. I might even have to let her go for one that has already been sorted. Damn shame if it comes to that though.
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To gain proper access to the inner sill i chopped away the outer sill, so that new one might of been done for no reason.
Trouble is, as i found out with mine, those little rusty scabs could potentially develop into really big holes. Have a peek at my thread, they are proper beautys! :D
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Looks like you had some fun there mate. Maybe I should learn to weld too!
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Did the aux tank strap yesterday. That was fun. I hate rusty nuts :x
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you will just have to do a bit at a time mate ,so you can keep it a daily runner!!!
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Put new distributor and leads on today. Car still won't start so will have to start looking at fueling next.
On another note. Yesterdays wheel removal revealed some more rusty bits. Do you think these need to be replaced?!?
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/reutybits1.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/reutybits2.jpg)
My birthday soon. Guess what I'm after. :lol:
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It's alive!!
A guy from RTOC offered me help and came over today. Spark was ok and fuel was ok too so he did a fair bit of ringing other owners he knows for more ideas. Don't know exactly what the root cause was, we went round all sensors and connections and checked the spark plugs and all seemed ok. Something must have been loose cos after a bit of cranking she burst into life! Happy days :D
I need to find one of these now though:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/seatbolt2.jpg)
It's off the passenger seat frame at ther front. It's a bit wobbly with only 1 bolt in! Anyone help with that?
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/seatbolt1.jpg)
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(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/seatbolt1.jpg)[/quote]
haha, mine has lost the same bolt. My girlfriends seat is a bit bouncier than mine :D
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Mine did the same.
I drilled them out and fitted normal bolt and nut. You can't tighten them up though otherwise the seat wont lift, i tightened mine up so that the seat was secure but not to tight that it wouldn't move. Then i Loctited the bolt.
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Will have to drill em ou then. Then find a new plastic trim for the frame.
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CGB have these, I bought a couple...
http://www.cgbmotorsport.net/front-seat ... -968-p.asp (http://www.cgbmotorsport.net/front-seat-stepped-pivot-bolt-968-p.asp)
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Thanks, but fek me that's alot for a bolt!
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Ok car running ok now. Fuel line 2 is now routed well away from anything hot. Dashboard is back in right, some muppet had put it back in and it was bent :roll: Exhaust has been fitted correctly, back box was not pushed on fully so it was hitting the body as it went over the axle, very annoying! More parts have arrived:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/newtoys001.jpg)
The boost gauge thet was in the car was shyte and the oil pressure gauge doesn't work so got a matching pair. Very nice they are too!
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/newtoys002.jpg)
Discs don't seem to like standing around for years and are pretty rusted, even though they don't have a lip on them. So while I'm spending :lol: Waiting for new pads to arrive before attacking more rusty nuts.
Also got new tyres to go on as 3 are below limit, and a new head as a spark plug thread is fooked.
Rad fan seem ssorted now, I think the car gets hot because the rad is badly corroded. Not sure that my new one has oil cooler in though so may need one of those too. Lots more fun to be had :D
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Love the stack gauges, you could always get your current head helicooiled, is the replacement head a known working head??
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Yes new head is sound. I need the car running so decided to get new head to swap over then refurb mine and keep as spare!
Where can I get a good price oil cooler from?
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If your going for an external oil cooler i would go for mocal products and www.thinkauto.com (http://www.thinkauto.com) sell the kits.
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I want those dials! 8)
I currently have the 'plasma' type glow ones with the smoked face. Yes they look really good at night, but in all honestly there completly useless in the daytime.
Black and white is the way!
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Checked new rad out and it has oil cooler in, so thats an expense spared, for now anyway. Brake pads arrived today and I finally got legal tyres on the car :D . Picked up the head otday to discover that not only is it refurbed but ported and flowed with matched manifold too! Need ot order gaskets tomorrow so I can do it at the weekend. My dad is over from Spain and cna't keep his head out of the engine bay. He was a mechanic most his working life and has a Fiat Barchetta back home that needs constant fixing so it did'nt take much to coerce him into helping with the head. :lol:
One thing I need advice on is the wastegate. The car is producing loads of boost, well off the end of the dash gauge. We have checked all the pipes and everything seems sound and secure so I think it must be the actuator that has been adjusted. Can anyone tell me a length it should be set at? I only want to be running standard boost for the time being.
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/wastegate.jpg)
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Thanks, but fek me that's alot for a bolt!
bob at cgb is a legend he's been helping me out and answering my stupid questions. and in fairness if you think £4 is steep, renault ireland want €38 plus the vat for a door check strap.
so cgb the whole way for me
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There will be a pipe off, in the wrong position or split if its running loads. Check the pipes to the actuator.
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Well all the pipes are off at the moment, so is the head. Can't see any that look split so will have to make sure they are all on tight when we put it back together.
3 out of 4 spark plug threads are knackered. How much does it cost to get a head refurbed?
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Buy another head fella. They are quite cheap !
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I got one already mate. Putting it back together tomorrow.
I need to find where to get pickup for oil pressure gauge, any ideas?. Also need to do the brakes and I don't think the dash lights work. Oh and I need a clamp for the exhaust. Anyone near me any good with the rear torsion bar? The front is much lower than the back and it needs sorting.
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Pop the actuator arm off and wind it out a good few turns so it's longer and see where the boost is at then.
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Out, ok mate will do. Cheers.
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Engine back together and runnign sweet. Untill one of the coolant hoses at the back of the manifold started to leak. Engine was hot so will have to look at it tomorrow. Didn't go for a drive so don't know about boost yet.
When I had the rad out I noticed a plug with 2 wires hanging loose. Further inspection revealed a sensor with no wires on, just below the oil pressure sensor. Is this for the oil level? I connected the plug to the sensor and all that seems to have happened is the oil gauge now does nothing at all, where before it used to light up, before returnig to doing nothing! Does anybody know what size theread the oil pressure sensor has to screw into the block?
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Sounds like the oil level sensor, is it screwed into the sump and angled upwards?
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Yes it is mate.
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Had to go to work in the old girl today. First thing I noticed was that half the dash lights don't work. Better put the working bulb behind the speedo! Also noticed a rather nasty burning smell. Seems the rocker cover is leaking oil onto the exhaust manifold where it is promptly boiled away. After having a quick look after coming home I also have very little water left. Temp was a ok on gauge and fan was working as it should. More investigation needed when its cooled. :(
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Rocker covers always leak.
Whip it off and check it's straight, the long edges can bow outwards if they are overtightened, and it doesn't take much to bend them.
Also they tend to weep oil around the base of the nuts, a blog of sealant should sort that out. And you might need more then one seal around the oil filler cap if it leaks there as well.
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T'old man is going to do it tomorrow when I am at work :D
In the mean time I ahve been busy breaking more bits of the interior:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/chokeaway4.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/chokeaway2.jpg)
Oops :!:
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Vandal! :lol:
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New choke cable fitted and working much better. Wobbly passenger seat sorted too. Rocker cover now sealed properly so no more smoke screen behind me! Front brakes and shocks now done too:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/suspension4.jpg)
Must do something with those calipers though. Rear still to do cos it took 3 hours to get one front disc off because the retaining screw was solid and rock hard. Buggered so many drill bits trying to get it out!
While doing the choke cable I found the wire for it so the dash light now works, but there was another wire behind there that I cant fathom what it's for. any ideas? It's the purple one.
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/sparewire.jpg)
I also have these spare in the centre of the dash. Are they for the clock?
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/whyers2-1.jpg)
Lastly, I need to get the heater fan working again. Is there a relay or owt for it I should be looking for?
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I'm going to hazard a guess, the multi pin plug is for the clock then the single wire must be for the bulb that lights up the heater controls.
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my heater is nackerd too i dunno if its just a realy or what?
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There's also a big bulb hanging that's been wired into the heater controll wiring. I thought it was for the clock?? It's not easy to check the dash bulbs in the day, or do owt with them in the dark.
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Rear brakes done today. Damn those discs were corroded to hell and back!
New rear shocks fitted too, set on the softest setting for now till I can get out for some test miles.
Managed to get the heater fan working too. One of the connectors that the fan sits in had snapped the plastic mounting so the fan was just pushing the connector out of the way. A bit of wire to bridge the gap has sorted it. Waiting for the rust treatment to come so I can start putting the inside back in.
All in, a good day today :D
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But is the heater fan quiet?
Mine squeals like crazy! I did remove it and tryed oiling it, but no joy. Now along with the squealing i also get an odd smell. :?
Will have to have another look at it before the colder mornings set in!
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LOL all quiet mate. I would check for small rodents down nesting on the heater matrix if I were you :lol:
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Finally sorted the boost and got back to somewhere near standard. At least I can put my foot odwn now without worrying which bit will come through the bonnet first!
Have to crack on with the dash wires now. Got a clock, but no connector for it :x Anyone know how easy (or hard) it is to move the heater controlls down to the radio hole?
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Got the clock fitted and working today. All the wires were there so crimped some connectors on them and soldered some wires onto the back of the clock. A reet tiny bit of my car now looks original! :lol:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/IMG033.jpg)
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Dump valve now removed, so much better IMO.
I seem to have a coolant leak or something that needs tracing. It drops to just below minimum level after a couple of journeys but never lower! THe fan kicks in sooner when I've topped it up though, so I really want to sort it out. I'll be buggered if I can find a leak though. Any ideas?
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Engine leaking internally? Head gasket etc.
Heater matrix leaking all over your floor?
I had a leak that took a while to find, turned out to be the small coolant pipe for the inlet manifold, it was dripping straight onto the exhaust manifold and evaporating so there were no signs.
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But is the heater fan quiet?
Mine squeals like crazy! I did remove it and tryed oiling it, but no joy. Now along with the squealing i also get an odd smell. :?
Will have to have another look at it before the colder mornings set in!
+1 mine was squealing like a pig,know it has given up the ghost,but weirdly decides to come on occasionally,just about when I pull into the car park at work.... :roll:
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good work mate :D what colour is the car subaru blue?
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But is the heater fan quiet?
Mine squeals like crazy! I did remove it and tryed oiling it, but no joy. Now along with the squealing i also get an odd smell. :?
Will have to have another look at it before the colder mornings set in!
+1 mine was squealing like a pig,know it has given up the ghost,but weirdly decides to come on occasionally,just about when I pull into the car park at work.... :roll:
Mine has the plastic sheilding missing from around the scuttle area, it's probably filled with water over the years and messed it up.
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Head gasket is new so hopefully not that! I will have to leave it running and keep an eye out for a leak, as it must be a small one somewhere. I suspect the hose from the water pump to the degassing pot, the one with the bleed screw in, but can never catch it doing it!
Bigman, the color is Renault electric blue. I believe it was only avaialble on D/E plate cars. Phase 1 and 1.5 were available in it. I have never seen it in a car newer than 88, E. I supose that makes Subarus Renault blue then :lol:
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p.s. The car stayed nice and cool on the way home in the summer heat this afternoon. Pootling in traffice round Meadowhall and a short blast up the M1 it never went past half way between 2nd and 3rd marks. :D
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That sounds exactly the same as mine.
Fan should cut in on the 3rd line, depending on what rating fan switch you have installed it might be lower.
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Found 2 leaks today. One from the water pump, looks like one of the bolts that hold it together is leaking. The other was rom the carb base to inlet manifold pipe. I saw a drip on the perk sensor and when I had a feel it started pissing out like a jet wash! New pipe on order.
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Old Blue has been ignored a bit of late. ok, so I ain't had a good run in her since before xmas! To my great surprise every time I went out to start her she has obliged after a bit of cranking. MOT is now expired and I was going to leave it until the weather is a bit better, just incase anything needs doing, but I gave in to her charms and she's going in on Monday. Wish us luck!
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Old Blue has been ignored a bit of late. ok, so I ain't had a good run in her since before xmas! To my great surprise every time I went out to start her she has obliged after a bit of cranking. MOT is now expired and I was going to leave it until the weather is a bit better, just incase anything needs doing, but I gave in to her charms and she's going in on Monday. Wish us luck!
Good luck!
Mine was off the road over the winter. I gave her a service and sorted a few little niggles while she was off the road.
I got her back on the road the weekend just gone, it's good to be back!
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Well, it's a fail I'm afraid. :( Not as bad as it could have been:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/motfail.jpg)
The only problem is the welding bits. This is under where the battery tray was, which had totally rusted away so I moved the battery to the other side.
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/IMG103.jpg)
There's a small hole at the bottom, but what the hell needs doing to fix that??
The other part is under the car, near the front of the sill, again no idea what it would take to sort it.
The car is now out of ticket so I cant plod about too much for quotes.
Anyone know a good place in Barnsley area that could tackle this for me?
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Ok so i've had a bit of a better look today. The suspension spring mounting is actually the inner wing where the battery tray bolt is! As the tray was nowt but dust, the rust has gone through around the bolt too.
the subframe mount is actually where the jacking point is joined, but after removing the side skirt some work is needed at the end of the sill/ base of wing, as there is a big hole there!
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/wing4.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/wing2.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/PDent225/Old%20Blue/jack2.jpg)
Hopefully not going to be too expensive to fix. The sill looks pretty ropey too, considering it was done for the mot last year! That will have to wait for next year though when a major rust removal will be the order of the day!
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Have a poke around. Mine was the same, but my big hole just kept getting bigger!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/ashlee205gti/IMG20110721_001.jpg)
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LOL, I've got the skirt off and the outer sill is solid.