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Title: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 14:25, Sat 21 August 2010
Thought I'd post up a small spec sheet for the new WIP>

Fairly standard at the mo but here is a brief run down.
T28
FMIC
2 1/4 exhaust
Samco water hoses
poly bushed arb
lowered 50mm
standard speedlines painted black.

Plans are 285 cam, more boost & some 195/45/13 tyres for the standard rims.
I plan on leaving the car as standard looking as poss.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: GTTboost on 21:24, Sat 21 August 2010
Cool you've returned to another 5...when did you buy this?  sounds like a nice car!  8)  

Quote from: "5teve L"
Thought I'd post up a small spec sheet for the new WIP>

Fairly standard at the mo but here is a brief run down.
T28
FMIC
2 1/4 exhaust
Samco water hoses
poly bushed arb
lowered 50mm
standard speedlines painted black.

Plans are 285 cam, more boost & some 195/45/13 tyres for the standard rims.
I plan on leaving the car as standard looking as poss.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 08:55, Sun 22 August 2010
Bought it last Monday :)

May have James5 old engine lined up to drop in  :twisted:  :mrgreen:

ARB's  & pads fitted so all MOT jobs are done now, will re-book tomorrow.
RE-fitted FMIC so the bumper fits a bit better now.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 10:05, Sun 22 August 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Bought it last Monday :)

May have James5 old engine lined up to drop in  :twisted:  :mrgreen:

ARB's  & pads fitted so all MOT jobs are done now, will re-book tomorrow.
RE-fitted FMIC so the bumper fits a bit better now.


Top man matey, hopefully as you say get MOT booked in quick so you can drive a 5 again.

And having my old engine will be fantastic matey, all the mods done for decent power and especially with the turbo you are running :mrgreen:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 20:33, Mon 23 August 2010
Ok jobs done so far.

New front lines, discs & pads & calipers painted black
poly ARB bushes (old ones were about 3mm oversized, lol)
seatbelts sorted for MOT
dash sorted for MOT
new trackrod end
2 2nd hand tyres for the rear.
MOT booked back in Weds at 330pm so should be all ok & hope to pick up James5 old MSM engine in a week or so.

Jobs still to do.
Set the carb up as it's got a horrible lean spot mid revs if you hold it there, unless it's the dizzy cap & leads, I will be replacing the lot this week so we'll see.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 21:14, Mon 23 August 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Ok jobs done so far.

New front lines, discs & pads & calipers painted black
poly ARB bushes (old ones were about 3mm oversized, lol)
seatbelts sorted for MOT
dash sorted for MOT
new trackrod end
2 2nd hand tyres for the rear.
MOT booked back in Weds at 330pm so should be all ok & hope to pick up James5 old MSM engine in a week or so.

Jobs still to do.
Set the carb up as it's got a horrible lean spot mid revs if you hold it there, unless it's the dizzy cap & leads, I will be replacing the lot this week so we'll see.


Steve could be a case of someone has knocked the dizzy gear out a tooth aswell, i thought I had a lean spot aswell but I decided to make the dizzy shaft adjustable so you can rotate the complete dizzy shaft with cap and leads on whilst the engine is runing hold it at the rpm you are having probs with and see if you can get it any better, could be a tooth or so out, don't forget that engine had a h/g done so could have been knocked out a tooth.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 21:59, Mon 23 August 2010
Mark sorted the lump though didn't he, I can't see him doing that TBH.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 22:50, Mon 23 August 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Mark sorted the lump though didn't he, I can't see him doing that TBH.


I don't think Mark done the H/G change on that engine I think Mark got it like that with the h/g change just done.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 08:18, Wed 25 August 2010
Fingers crossed for the MOT today matey :)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 08:30, Wed 25 August 2010
Well I have done all the bits needed for MOT so it should pass now.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 09:06, Wed 25 August 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Well I have done all the bits needed for MOT so it should pass now.

To right will be fine and looking forward to the drive tonight :) :mrgreen:

Be good to see you back behind the wheel of a laggy 5gtt
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 17:19, Wed 25 August 2010
Passed MOT & should be picking engine up Monday with any luck.. at least I can set the lag monster up a bit better then  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Ash-Lee on 21:11, Wed 25 August 2010
Congratulations.  8)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 10:05, Thu 26 August 2010
Faultless drive last night to Tadworth & back in the pi55ing rain, well apart from the alternator coming loose. Need some decent tyres on the 13's or some 15" rims for sure as it's sketchy in the wet  :shock:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 17:00, Thu 26 August 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Faultless drive last night to Tadworth & back in the pi55ing rain, well apart from the alternator coming loose. Need some decent tyres on the 13's or some 15" rims for sure as it's sketchy in the wet  :shock:


Sketchy :lol:  you boys were alll over the place,
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 17:19, Thu 26 August 2010
Quote from: "James5"
Quote from: "5teve L"
Faultless drive last night to Tadworth & back in the pi55ing rain, well apart from the alternator coming loose. Need some decent tyres on the 13's or some 15" rims for sure as it's sketchy in the wet  :shock:


Sketchy :lol:  you boys were alll over the place,


Yeah, fookin scary stuff, power on, go toward central reservation, power off toward lorry    :mrgreen:  :shock:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: scratcher on 21:05, Fri 27 August 2010
Well done for turning this around so quickly mate  8)

I wish I had some of your enthusiasm!
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 22:02, Fri 27 August 2010
Lovin' it & I pick up the engine Monday, will try to fit it ASAP  :mrgreen:
Got new window rubbers to fit, new engine mounts, will prob get a helix paddle clutch & drop it in as well while I'm there & get that turbo pushing 1.5 bar boost.. I will then stick it on the rollers to see what she makes & then can't wait to get it to pod !
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 12:39, Sat 28 August 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Lovin' it & I pick up the engine Monday, will try to fit it ASAP  :mrgreen:
Got new window rubbers to fit, new engine mounts, will prob get a helix paddle clutch & drop it in as well while I'm there & get that turbo pushing 1.5 bar boost.. I will then stick it on the rollers to see what she makes & then can't wait to get it to pod !


I don't mind giving you a hand putting the engine in matey and getting the old one out :) let me know when you go to the rollers I will be up for some of that to :)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 18:11, Mon 30 August 2010
400 mile 6 hr round trip & now I have MSM engine no 9  :twisted:
Paddle clutch to buy & then I'll drop it in !
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: andybond on 20:49, Mon 30 August 2010
What spec is that engine Steve ?
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 22:20, Mon 30 August 2010
MSM engine no 9

Carb standard venturi, 120main. 1.9 needle, 1.0 a/c, 1.3 2nd stage
High Comp engine,
MSM Custom ported and polished head,
Matched manifolds
MSM Valve stem seals,
Mellior uprated H/G + 12.9 Head bolts torqued to 80nm,
Corteco bottom end gasket set,
New Pushrods,
New Cam followers
MSM 293 degree cam,
MSM High lift valve springs,
MSM Vernier,
MSM larger timing chain,
MSM High flow oil pump,
Total Seal piston rings,
MSM Steel Liners,
Tarabusi Pistons,
MSM L&B bottom end i think it may have been blue printed aswell,
.25 big end shells,
CTM 9 slot L&B flywheel,
Valeo green box clutch,
Breather mod to front of block,
Alloy carb top
T28 Turbo
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: andybond on 13:49, Tue 31 August 2010
sounds crap  :shock:
 :D  :P
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 18:39, Tue 31 August 2010
Quote from: "andybond"
sounds crap  :shock:
 :D  :P

Yeah, prob will only get about 230 bhp out of it  :cry:

















 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: andybond on 19:17, Tue 31 August 2010
Dissapointing.

When you scrap it , ill have it to weigh it in ..
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 09:14, Fri 10 September 2010
Nearly ready to drop the engine in, clutch plate turned up yesterday...
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture142.jpg)

Just need a dry day now  :roll:

Also dug out my old Renaultsport watch.. was thinking of making it into the clock in the car somehow..
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Picture005-3.jpg)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 09:17, Fri 10 September 2010
That clutch plate looks knackackered better let me test it out for you  :lol:

As said the other day matey I am more than happy to help with the engine in an eve to be honest we should be able to get an engine out and in within one eve anyway  :mrgreen:  and prob most bits bolted back on aswell ready to start.

Eve's are best for me as I really struggle daytimes at the weekends due to the Miss's and the kids :)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 09:23, Fri 10 September 2010
Well I don't think this weekend will be very good anyway, I need to go to Marky Marks on Sat morning & then fit a fuel pump, new filter & AVCR in my old Evo & set it up for more boost. Then Sunday I'm out all day anyway... Will look at the weather & book you up  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 07:51, Mon 13 September 2010
Hope to get the engine in this week if the rain holds off.
Got new engine mounts to fit at the same time so should be alot better.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 19:37, Tue 14 September 2010
Got the engine out but hit a slight setback, looks like I will need a new valeo cover & release bearing to put in :(
Plus I had to change the exhaust manifold as it had a stud snapped in it, nice one James  :P
Oh & one of the new engine mounts is different, the gearbox side for some reason doesn't have the metal block on it  :?

So need a clutch, rear arch, sideskirt clip kit & a new manifold gasket before I can get her back on the road !  :evil:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 09:34, Wed 15 September 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Plus I had to change the exhaust manifold as it had a stud snapped in it, nice one James  :P

 :oops:  Been like the for years with no probs  :D
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 08:46, Tue 05 October 2010
Engine finally in, just need to sort a few little probs like snapped one way valve on the inlet, fitted a new throttle cable so need to chop that down, sort the clutch pedal out as it has loads of slack, even with a new fork & bush, fit all hoses up & wire in the alternator, then just need to fire her up :)
Pi55ing down again here so looking like tomorrow or thurs now...  :cry:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 09:10, Tue 05 October 2010
Steve,  I have a working one way valve here on my desk at work you can have, also got rear bumper lastic block in the car and front gearbox mount that might be of some use for you.

Will drop of laterz :D
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 14:22, Tue 12 October 2010
Currently waiting for a few parts to turn up that were missing off the engine  :roll:  (I blame James)
Sorted out my niggly clutch problem, turns out I needed to file 2mm off the stop  :roll:  re-fitted the FMIC as it was on the pi55  :roll:  & test fitted my new bumper I got off Marky Mark.
Once I get the car back I'll get round to fitting my saftey devices cage thats sitting in my garden..

FMIC before
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture058.jpg)
After
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture061.jpg)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: nadgtt1982 on 15:27, Tue 12 October 2010
Looks like a good little project u got going there keep it up  :)   Keep the photos coming in i enjoy reading/seeing what people are up to.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 15:58, Tue 12 October 2010
:lol:  Blame James

Stop making excuses for being slack and pull your finger out :lol:

I will try and find an oil sandwich plate bolt of your tonight matey.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 09:00, Wed 13 October 2010
Found the bolt matey, left it on your doorstep this morning on my way through to work  :D
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: bazr5gtt on 10:08, Wed 13 October 2010
hi steve was wondering what sort of boost your gonna be running?as im after a carb reciepe for mines,my spec is similar to yours im running the bbpt yellow spec engine with l&b and knifedged crank and flywheel and t28, just needing somewhere to start mate thanks baz 8)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 11:26, Wed 13 October 2010
Hi Baz, every car is different mate so hard to say.. I'm going to try 24 psi manifold like my old car but it will depend if I can keep the carb bowl from emptying. Carb spec is 1.4 2nd stage, 120 main, 1.9 needle jet & I think it's either a 1mm or .9 A/C in there, you need to check with wideband though as will I.
On your spec I'd try 21psi manifold 1st (about 1.5 bar)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: bazr5gtt on 16:54, Wed 13 October 2010
cheers steve ill give it ago and see how it goes mate thanks for that,cant wait to see your motor when shes done,gonna be proper tasty keep us posted with the photos thanks again  8)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 19:48, Thu 14 October 2010
It runs !!
& I think I have sorted the clutch, engine sounds nice & quiet as well.
She is still on axle stands untill I drop the oil & check for leaks etc. so hopefully by the weekend I will have the car back, rear arch is in the paint shop so I should be able to fit that back on next week, also fixed the sideskirt with the kit Bob @ CGB sells so that should stay on as well. All I need to do then is get the front bumper painted & fit the cage, job done :)

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture150.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture155.jpg)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 22:56, Thu 14 October 2010
Fecking good engine that am pretty jealous I didn't have enough cash for the engine aswell, still happy with the VNT though :).

Looking good matey can't wait to see it on the road :)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 14:17, Fri 15 October 2010
Steve, Have you started prepping that bumper as it's looking more blue than black now :lol:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 14:55, Fri 15 October 2010
Quote from: "James5"
Steve, Have you started prepping that bumper as it's looking more blue than black now :lol:

Yeah I had some miami blue paint so gave it a quick spray over to see what it looked like,  I'll fill the little bits missing, fit the lower bars to hold it up & get it painted properly over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: H150GTT on 00:14, Sat 16 October 2010
I like the meshed cut down version of the original grille. Looks smart
Would near put my old one back on again after looking at yours.
Tidy job lad!!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 23:01, Fri 22 October 2010
All up & running, seems ok, pulls like a train at 18 psi, I will up the boost once I know the car has no leaks etc. as she's a little rich, I have my old carb on the car so it's specc'd up for 24 psi manifold  :mrgreen:
Spins the wheels in all the gears with the little 13's on, even in 4th  :shock:
The compressor stall is something else with this turbo as well, sounds awesome, scared the shit out of some people walking up the road earlier, I did  :lol:
Front bumper all fitted up ok, just needs painting, had my rear arch done but it's not a very good match, I'm wondering if it has to go onto a dark base to bring out the darker, purply blue ??
Hope to fit the cage tomorrow :mrgreen:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 08:52, Sat 23 October 2010
Steve good to see you last night your 5 sounded awesome matey and looked good to :)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 09:59, Sat 23 October 2010
Quote from: "James5"
Steve good to see you last night your 5 sounded awesome matey and looked good to :)
Did Dave get back ok & did you sort your A/C jet out ?
I may need a 1mm at the moment..
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 10:52, Sat 23 October 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Quote from: "James5"
Steve good to see you last night your 5 sounded awesome matey and looked good to :)
Did Dave get back ok & did you sort your A/C jet out ?
I may need a 1mm at the moment..


Damm, should have said last night as my a/c jet was an undrilled 1.0 and yeah managed to solder and drill my a/c to a .9 last night, I assume he got home ok I only had a pm from him about 3:11am saying he broke down, I did tell him to call me when he gets home or if anything happens. Thankfully he had RAC cover looks like his alternaotr got damaged when it came off
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 18:00, Sat 23 October 2010
Cage all fitted up. Just some decent rims & suspension to get now....
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 18:10, Sat 23 October 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Cage all fitted up. Just some decent rims & suspension to get now....


Steve good work matey, youve not had that car long and you have done so much in such a short peroid.  Get some more pics up with the cage in and defo get some videos on the provate test track of the car doing it's thing :D
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 10:49, Sat 30 October 2010
Bloody alt belt keeps coming off, totally lost it in the end last night :(
Something is obviously amiss, must be twisted or out of line somewhere   :evil:
Off to halfrauds today to try to pick up a new one I suppose...
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: Ash-Lee on 11:11, Sat 30 October 2010
Check the long bolt that attaches the alternator to the engine block.

When my belt used to mysteriously pop off it was because that had worked itself loose.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 16:49, Sat 30 October 2010
Quote from: "Ash-Lee"
Check the long bolt that attaches the alternator to the engine block.

When my belt used to mysteriously pop off it was because that had worked itself loose.
Nah, that was nice & tight as I put a nyloc on it  :wink:
Turns out the alt & waterpump were out of line by about 5mm   :roll:  no idea how or why, I undid the bracket the alt sits on & pushed it across, jobs a good un... I hope, not tested it on the road yet..
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 16:53, Sun 31 October 2010
Met up with Loopylee today to pick up the new rims, look much better than the standard black ones IMO.  :mrgreen:
Cheers for holding them for me mate, you're a star  :wink:

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture063.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture065.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture064.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture067.jpg)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: loopylee on 17:25, Sun 31 October 2010
no probs Steve said i would hold them for you  :D

they look sweet on your motor mate  :)  :)  :)  :)


Lee
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 21:51, Sun 31 October 2010
Steve, looks much better matey, might pop over on my way back from work tomoz for a better view :lol:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: Ash-Lee on 22:30, Sun 31 October 2010
Are they 16"? They look quite large in the
photos.  8)

Spotted the emergency oil/coolant as well, i don't carry any.....i live dangerously.  :lol:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 08:02, Mon 01 November 2010
Yeah they are 16's. Bonus is they don't rub at all on the rear, I fogot Chris had 16's on before so the rear bumper has been shaved :)  They rub on one side at the front on full lock but I do need to do my tracking..
RE: the oil & coolant.. I have just dropped the lump in so I'm living carefully at the mo..  :lol:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 17:31, Tue 02 November 2010
Attacked some tinworm today that I noticed last time it rained..
Was a little larger than I 1st thought  :shock:

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture068.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture070.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture069.jpg)

To this

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture073.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture074.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture071.jpg)

Just need to tidy the boot up a little & give it a lick of paint.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 18:40, Tue 02 November 2010
Looking much better can't believe how much you have done in the short time you have owned the car :lol:  efo gets a thumbs up from me. :D

Looking forward for tomorrow eve should be a good drive to the meet if you have managed to sort your fueling out that is :D   Yet again I am about to go and put my exhaust back on :lol:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: nadgtt1982 on 19:23, Tue 02 November 2010
Car is looking good fella, wheels look nice.

Didnt know how much these cars seem to rot away untill i joined this site the more i see rot like you have the more i appreciate how clean mine is :D.

Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: Ash-Lee on 21:14, Tue 02 November 2010
I'm going to check my boot floor tomorrow.  :o
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 09:15, Thu 04 November 2010
Well that was short lived  :(  bottom end let go last night, looks like the contents of the sump came out of the breather & ended up in the engine bay, this coupled with the rattle makes me think oil starvation & the shells have gone :(

Now I'm in two mind, do I strip the sump & take a look with a hope to replace the shells... or do I rip it apart & fit forged rods & pistons.... hmm
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 10:49, Thu 04 November 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Well that was short lived  :(  bottom end let go last night, looks like the contents of the sump came out of the breather & ended up in the engine bay, this coupled with the rattle makes me think oil starvation & the shells have gone :(

Now I'm in two mind, do I strip the sump & take a look with a hope to replace the shells... or do I rip it apart & fit forged rods & pistons.... hmm


I still can't believe what happened last night, my car then your car.

I would strip sump off and look how badly damaged first, matey and then make the descsion on what route to go.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 10:53, Thu 04 November 2010
The way it's breathing just turning over it is looking like rings as well as the shells.. looks like the engine will be getting rebuilt then, will try to get it on the road for next year. May as well change the gearbox as well while I'm there as that is noisey & leaks...
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 11:12, Thu 04 November 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
The way it's breathing just turning over it is looking like rings as well as the shells.. looks like the engine will be getting rebuilt then, will try to get it on the road for next year. May as well change the gearbox as well while I'm there as that is noisey & leaks...


Get that box of JRP, get Dave or JRP to drop it of or something.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: scratcher on 12:55, Thu 04 November 2010
Jeez, both cars in one night! Was it a little race down that dual carriageway?

I hope you can sort it out easily mate. I think I've got some shells knocking about still if you need some. I'll check which ones they are.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 15:36, Thu 04 November 2010
Quote from: "scratcher"
Jeez, both cars in one night! Was it a little race down that dual carriageway?

I hope you can sort it out easily mate. I think I've got some shells knocking about still if you need some. I'll check which ones they are.


Cheers for the offer but it will be off the road for some time.. piston picked up & stuck itself to the liner wall on no 1 (or is it 4 on the waterpump end) anyway, liner & piston are looking very, very sorry for themselves :(
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 16:14, Thu 04 November 2010
Feck me can't believe you have pretty much melted the piston to theliner so looks like problem was fueling and det related.

I done a similar thing in july this year but with just 1 piston and liner.  I think sparkysparks done a similar thing aswell on his 5 again fuelling and det related.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: scratcher on 16:33, Thu 04 November 2010
Yeah, little Mark done the same. I'm sure the was something wrong with that whole engine in general though.
No worries Steve. The bearings I have are the mains so just give us a shout if you need them, they'll probably still be in the shed.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: H150GTT on 16:45, Thu 04 November 2010
Sorry to hear about this guys. Hate the gut feeling you get when a 5 engine lets go  :(
You guys didnt happen to get your fuel from the same place by any chance??
Could poor quality fuel of caused det and wrecked both engines?
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 16:59, Thu 04 November 2010
Some filthy pictures for you all to ogle over

Knew it wasn't good when I saw a shiney drivers wheel last night, opened the bonnet & saw this
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Took the head off & then was greeted with the pics below..

Bits of piston
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Which came from here
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And here
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Which ended up here....
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No 4
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2&3
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1
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Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: Ash-Lee on 22:57, Thu 04 November 2010
Ouch!

Remind me again, why did you get another 5?

Good luck with the rebuild!  8)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 08:44, Fri 05 November 2010
Quote from: "Ash-Lee"
Ouch!

Remind me again, why did you get another 5?

Good luck with the rebuild!  8)
Something to fiddle with over the winter... must clear my shed out to make room..
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 15:22, Mon 08 November 2010
Block is cracked so it's scrap... make my mind up time now.. rebuild with another block or go 1.8 turbo....
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: scratcher on 15:44, Mon 08 November 2010
1.8 turbo. You know it makes sense  :wink:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 15:51, Mon 08 November 2010
The clio 1.8 16v lump turbo'd is a good way to go, but it would be nice to retain the little C1J.  Such a shame about that MSM block :(  Can it not be weld repaired?

Don't ditch the block I am seriously wondering if it can be welded and then re-used.

I have had a welded block in the past where i put a piston through the side of the block due oil pump failure this was many many many years ago.  the garage at the time I think was Renault up in roffey and a mate merely just welded the fecking hole up and all was good other than the constant oil and coolant mixing problem which turned out to be the rad back then.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: MATT BLACK on 15:56, Mon 08 November 2010
good read that - sorry to hear about your engine though.

Personally i would go the 1.8T route. If you've got the cash its a relatively simple conversion and the standard lump is good for around 270 bhp ( with the standard K04 )........but we dont want to go that route  :wink:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 16:50, Mon 08 November 2010
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Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: Ash-Lee on 18:55, Mon 08 November 2010
Ouch!

What side is the crack? Mine cracked from the thread for the headbolt right across the square waterway, then all the way down to the sump. This was on the gearbox side.

It never did seal again, i tryed to file a 'V' and fill with chemical metal, but as soon as the head was refitted the torque from the bolts just opened it up again.

Probably best salvaging what you can (if it hasn't all been ruined by swarf) and getting another block to build into, rather then try to repair the block and find out 3 months down the road it's cracked again.

Probably the reason for you thread in the wanted section.
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 19:18, Mon 08 November 2010
Quote from: "Ash-Lee"
Ouch!

What side is the crack? Mine cracked from the thread for the headbolt right across the square waterway, then all the way down to the sump. This was on the gearbox side.

It never did seal again, i tryed to file a 'V' and fill with chemical metal, but as soon as the head was refitted the torque from the bolts just opened it up again.

Probably best salvaging what you can (if it hasn't all been ruined by swarf) and getting another block to build into, rather then try to repair the block and find out 3 months down the road it's cracked again.

Probably the reason for you thread in the wanted section.

Indeed, I am also considering 172, volvo & 1.8 16v conversions at this time  :twisted:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 19:15, Tue 09 November 2010
OK, now I could replace the block as it's not high comp at all, it's totally standard compression  :roll:  
So put the liners back into another block, rebore them & fit forged pistons... nah sod that, I give up with the C1J.. F7p is the way forward... watch this space  :wink:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: bazr5gtt on 00:17, Thu 11 November 2010
sorry to hear about your motor steve :(  looking forward to see what madness your planning under the bonnet keep us posted mate 8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 08:47, Fri 12 November 2010
OK, so defo going F7P build now, got a phase 1 R19 16v lined up to use for the transplant, I may use it in n/a form over the winter & get another complete block to turbo.
I may not  build it myself as by the time the cranks had a grind, the block been bored & refaced, cylinder head refreshed etc they may as well stick it together, it will only cost me 295 labour so what the hell.... 1800 all inc. ready to drop in sounds good to me, then it's just a case of getting adaptronic on it & mapped, 800 or so.. custom downpipe...

I'm aiming to get it done by May  :shock:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 21:20, Sat 13 November 2010
Donor car bought, will be dropping the engine in as it is for the winter & buy another block to do the turbo work on. Shame to break the car but I need the engine & it does have a serious brake fault  :shock:
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Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 22:02, Sun 14 November 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Donor car bought, will be dropping the engine in as it is for the winter & buy another block to do the turbo work on. Shame to break the car but I need the engine & it does have a serious brake fault  :shock:
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Can't wait to see this once you have done it.

Shame to take apart that R19 looks to be in ok condition :D
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: tubbyG on 22:14, Sun 14 November 2010
things look to be moving fast. Good work, and cant wait to see a turbo'd version... that will fairly shift!! :lol:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 15:51, Wed 17 November 2010
Quote from: "Phase2-tungy-gtt"
things look to be moving fast. Good work, and cant wait to see a turbo'd version... that will fairly shift!! :lol:
I'm hoping so, 270 BHP is what I'm aiming for, anymore & I think I may need rods as well..
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: scratcher on 16:07, Thu 18 November 2010
You definitely work fast man! I hope it all falls in no probs.
And how bad was the brake fault...any near misses?
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 16:11, Thu 18 November 2010
Hopefully the engine will be in the 5 by end of next week going to give Steve a hand doing it but knowing Steve by the time I turn up it will all be in  :lol:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 20:00, Thu 18 November 2010
Quote from: "James5"
Hopefully the engine will be in the 5 by end of next week going to give Steve a hand doing it but knowing Steve by the time I turn up it will all be in  :lol:

It may be in but it won't be wired up, I'm counting on you for that part  :shock:   !!
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 20:03, Thu 18 November 2010
Quote from: "scratcher"
You definitely work fast man! I hope it all falls in no probs.
And how bad was the brake fault...any near misses?
Towed it on a bar most of the way, I only drove it a small distance to see if all was ok. Brake fault is ABS or master cylinder related, pedal goes stiff & it makes all sorts of nasty noises  :shock:
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: andybond on 21:51, Thu 18 November 2010
I wish some of you lot lived near me. I need someone to motivate me at times.

No one is really around Doncaster - few in Manc , but thats 60 miles ...
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: James5 on 21:52, Thu 18 November 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Quote from: "James5"
Hopefully the engine will be in the 5 by end of next week going to give Steve a hand doing it but knowing Steve by the time I turn up it will all be in  :lol:

It may be in but it won't be wired up, I'm counting on you for that part  :shock:   !!


Steve should be fairly easy need R19 16v clock dash loom, engine loom and some earths, lives, igntionon lives, fuel pump wires and job done  :D
Title: Re: My Raider
Post by: 5teve L on 16:16, Fri 19 November 2010
Quote from: "James5"
Quote from: "5teve L"
Quote from: "James5"
Hopefully the engine will be in the 5 by end of next week going to give Steve a hand doing it but knowing Steve by the time I turn up it will all be in  :lol:

It may be in but it won't be wired up, I'm counting on you for that part  :shock:   !!


Steve should be fairly easy need R19 16v clock dash loom, engine loom and some earths, lives, igntionon lives, fuel pump wires and job done  :D

Yeah, easy  :shock:   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 15:08, Wed 24 November 2010
Bit of progress today, got the engine nearly ready to come out, just need to undo the exhaust & either the drive shafts or the engine block bolts, depends if I pull it out as one or not.... Also took the cam cover to be shotblasted so I can re-paint it.... now, blue or black ??
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: James5 on 20:36, Wed 24 November 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
Bit of progress today, got the engine nearly ready to come out, just need to undo the exhaust & either the drive shafts or the engine block bolts, depends if I pull it out as one or not.... Also took the cam cover to be shotblasted so I can re-paint it.... now, blue or black ??


I reckon you should do the cam cover yellow matey :D  if that's not possible how about raider blue :D

I'll be with you straight after work tomoz so should be around 5ish I will see if I can get out earlier aswell :D
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: tubbyG on 20:41, Wed 24 November 2010
Yellow would look good and stand out, but If your choosing between those two, then it has to be raider blue:-D
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 10:52, Sat 27 November 2010
Ok, slight set back, what are the chances of the same person getting 2 cracked blocks....... :cry:

I have found someone selling all the low boost conversion stuff, ecu (8psi max I think) R21 injectors & MAP, I have sourced a manifold, can use my turbo so just need the oil feel & drain sorted & I may go for low boost 1st then onto higher boost when I know it all works ok.
Got another engine lined up as well so hopefully this one is ok  :roll:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: Ash-Lee on 13:23, Sat 27 November 2010
Let me guess......

FFS!!

I would of really thrown my toys out the pram at that stage.

3rd time lucky?
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 14:08, Sat 27 November 2010
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& yes, I have thrown my toys out of the pram... was going to sell the lot the other night, 4 hours in the cold under site lights & the bugger is cracked. Saw some rusty staining so inverstigated further & found the crack  :(
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: Ash-Lee on 22:58, Sat 27 November 2010
I can see it now.....

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture385.jpg)

"Hmm........what the..........?"

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture384.jpg)

"OH FFS!!!!"
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 16:58, Sun 28 November 2010
OK a few parts coming. Got a clio engine & a R 19 engine to pick up & also bought some R21 injectors, MAP sensor & a low boost ecu & picking a manifold up @ the next Surrey meey next week.
 Plan is to get one of the engines refreshed (new cambelt, water pump & headgasket), turbo it & run low boost for a while till I have all the other work done on the other engine for high boost, low boost should see 200bhp @ 8 psi..  we'll see...
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 16:59, Sun 28 November 2010
Quote from: "Ash-Lee"
I can see it now.....

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture385.jpg)

"Hmm........what the..........?"

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture384.jpg)

"OH FFS!!!!"
Nah, wasn't till I actually got it out I noticed the rust as the starter & manifold was in the way...
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: scratcher on 20:51, Sun 28 November 2010
Shit luck mate. Fingers crossed on the new engines.
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist a turbo it it though.

Oh, and Raider blue on the cam cover would look swish  8)
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 16:36, Mon 29 November 2010
I am feeling yellow for the cam cover & black for the inlet  :mrgreen:

Also did a deal on a big brake kit today, swapped it for my old black alloys & oil feed with filter.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: James5 on 19:57, Mon 29 November 2010
Quote from: "5teve L"
I am feeling yellow for the cam cover & black for the inlet  :mrgreen:


 :D  That sounds good to me matey :mrgreen:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 17:28, Tue 30 November 2010
Some goodies arrived today, R21 MAP sensor & injectors plus my low boost ecu  :mrgreen:
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& my new brakes

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture.jpg)
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: James5 on 18:59, Tue 30 November 2010
Not to many bits to go and you will be ready to sort out the engine and drop it into the 5. let me know when that is matey will give you a hand
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 20:42, Wed 01 December 2010
Quote from: "James5"
Not to many bits to go and you will be ready to sort out the engine and drop it into the 5. let me know when that is matey will give you a hand
Will do mate, just need to take the turbo union & oil pressure switch to pirtek & get a hose made up. Then drill the block, fit the oil drain, dish the pistons, add new big end shells & headgasket, then wire up the ecu  :roll:   yeah not much matey, lol.
Also still need to pick up 2 engines, one from Bognor & another from Borden..
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 10:51, Sat 11 December 2010
Stripped one of the engines yesterday & removed the pistons to be sent off & dished. Also fitted my dark greens to the fuel rail ready to go in.
I will get the other engine stripped sometime next week so I can take the block to be honed & cleaned, will also get them to drill & tap the oil drain into it.
Need to find somewhere to refurb my head as well, needs a clean, valves re-lapping & new stem seals fitted...

Then after christmas it will hopefully be onto the rebuild....
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 18:00, Tue 28 December 2010
Not alot happening except I have now fitted a blue monaco S bucket seat & sold my old turbo so have some cash towards my engine build as it deffo looks like forged & high boost is on the cards 1st.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: markey mark (bd) on 18:54, Tue 28 December 2010
Sounds like making progress mate.

I've been wiring up my mates F7P powered 5 at moment so been noting down what wires go where.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 21:06, Tue 28 December 2010
Quote from: "markey mark (bd)"
Sounds like making progress mate.

I've been wiring up my mates F7P powered 5 at moment so been noting down what wires go where.

Yeah keep a note of those wires please mate as I will make the loom up ready to drop straight in..
After posting that just had Scoff send me a PM about the pistons I sent him & he says we may be able to get 8.5:1 CR by skimming the pistons by 2mm & still have enough meat left to be ok for 1 bar boost, sounds like a good CR to have with a big turbo, just need to either go standalone or see if this guy can remap standard ecu's as I reckon the ign timing will need pulling with that CR on a high boost fast chips set up.. det cans at the ready !!
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 15:26, Wed 12 January 2011
Had another setback, turns out the engine I bought is worse than the other one FFS..
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But I got some goodies as well.
Nissan 200sx T28
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Alt brackets
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Standard piston vs skimmed one
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Skimmed pistons
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Also had my high boost chip turn up.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: Ash-Lee on 20:43, Wed 12 January 2011
That engine looks tip-top.  :shock:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 11:18, Fri 14 January 2011
Got another 2 blocks lined up, these are already stripped so I can at least see the fookin bores & block !!
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: gjw on 07:55, Sat 15 January 2011
Quote from: "markey mark (bd)"
Sounds like making progress mate.

I've been wiring up my mates F7P powered 5 at moment so been noting down what wires go where.

Can you post what goes where when you're done, It would be a real help, I'm in two minds about selling mine.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 15:57, Mon 17 January 2011
Slight update as I found another engine cheap last night, looks good after the little issues were sorted.. the sump torx bolts had rounded off, I had to smash the sump up with a hammer to get the sump off  :mrgreen: & the dipstick tube was broken so got another..
All looks good internally, just needs a bloody good clean now. Also ordered the new rings, mains & big end shells, thrust washer & bottom end gasket kit.
So just need to get it cleaned up & fit the bottm end back together...
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: tubbyG on 17:49, Mon 17 January 2011
Good news at last!!!  Nice one :wink:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 18:45, Mon 17 January 2011
A few piccies of progress...
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What I had to do to the sump to get it off  :mrgreen:
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture478.jpg)

Rotated the T28 as well so it should be ready to fit.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: Ash-Lee on 21:52, Mon 17 January 2011
I dread to think where that hammer would end up if it was yet another bad engine.

Sump removal doesn't look quite 'text-book'  :lol:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 22:37, Mon 17 January 2011
Quote from: "Ash-Lee"
I dread to think where that hammer would end up if it was yet another bad engine.

Sump removal doesn't look quite 'text-book' :lol:

Lump hammer & a big screwdriver  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: James5 on 09:25, Tue 18 January 2011
Thankfully looks like you finally have a good block, I have the piston ring tool in my car I will drop it off later matey so you have some the tools ready for when your ready to put it together.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 16:22, Tue 18 January 2011
I have 2 good blocks now, will hone both & decide which to use :)
I may still take them to the machine shop to be cleaned up.. Also went over to meet Mike(phasei16vturbo) today to pick up the rings, bearings & bottom end set, top bloke for sorting that lot out :)
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: James5 on 16:41, Tue 18 January 2011
Quote from: "5teve L"
I have 2 good blocks now, will hone both & decide which to use :)
I may still take them to the machine shop to be cleaned up.. Also went over to meet Mike(phasei16vturbo) today to pick up the rings, bearings & bottom end set, top bloke for sorting that lot out :)


I take it you will want the piston ring compressor tool very soon then by the looks of things :lol:  good thing I found it last night.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 15:47, Thu 20 January 2011
James & I did a dummy build today, all looks ok, looks like I can use the GTT engine mount if I mod it a bit..
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture482.jpg)
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Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: DaveMayGTT on 17:24, Thu 20 January 2011
Good to see something positive, been watching for a while! Looks fairly tight.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 17:11, Wed 26 January 2011
Prob going to clean up the bottom end this weekend & poss even start to build the bottom end up. Just need to drill the oil return, put some new core plugs in & hone the block & I can start to build it up.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: nadgtt1982 on 19:05, Wed 26 January 2011
I read your imperial blue 5 thread from years ago was a good read and a nice car 8)  not to sure on the glitter mobile tho :lol:.

Im in awe of how you can just keep going with rebuild after rebuild hats off to you i reckon i could cope with 1 rebuild but after that i give up :oops:, good luck with the work planned for the weekend fella.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 17:03, Sat 29 January 2011
Well a day of tinkering in the shed.
Honed the bores, fitted new main & thrust bearings, re-fitted crank & oil squirters. Also modded my GT Turbo engine bracket to fit the F7P, 95% there, just needs a few final touches & I'll get another to mod so it's 100% for the final build.
Got my oil drain but need to get the right size drill bit & a 1/2" NPT tap before I go on with that. I'll have a go at fitting the new piston rings over the next few days as well & then I can fit those up & re-fit the oil pick up & sump.
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Post by: superted on 18:08, Sat 29 January 2011
Quote from: "5teve L"
Well a day of tinkering in the shed.
Honed the bores, fitted new main & thrust bearings, re-fitted crank & oil squirters. Also modded my GT Turbo engine bracket to fit the F7P, 95% there, just needs a few final touches & I'll get another to mod so it's 100% for the final build.
Got my oil drain but need to get the right size drill bit & a 1/2" NPT tap before I go on with that. I'll have a go at fitting the new piston rings over the next few days as well & then I can fit those up & re-fit the oil pick up & sump.


ive got some drill bits mate you can use for the block.   :wink:  my 5 going backwards at the mo  :(
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Post by: 5teve L on 08:55, Fri 04 February 2011
Added the oil drain now.
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Next job is to fit the piston rings then drop the pistons in & seal up the bottom end...
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Post by: James5 on 09:54, Fri 04 February 2011
Steve looking good matey, glad to see things are now moving in the right direction for you :D

You have defo got to paint that block up to keep it looking tidy, personally think you should do it Blue, but a nice coat of black would keep it looking fresh aswell
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Post by: Ash-Lee on 13:16, Fri 04 February 2011
Dip your drill bit in a tub of grease, helps stop the swarf flying everywhere.

Top tip of the day.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: 5teve L on 09:12, Wed 09 February 2011
Rings fitted to the pistons & new shells, then all dropped in, sealed up the ends with sealant, just need to refit the oil pick up & then the sump can go on.
This is where I'm at now.
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Post by: 5teve L on 15:18, Wed 09 February 2011
Done a bit more today & sealed the sump up.
Also fed the loom down the chassis leg (so it looks OE) & into the car so I can join it in there as I have a spare interior plug, hopefully this way I can stick the car back to OE if needed.
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Post by: James5 on 15:56, Wed 09 February 2011
So good to see progress in the right direction now, 1/2 way there on the engine, then it's a case of dropping it in and mounting the ancillaries, wiring the hardest part will be making some kind of downpipe :)
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Post by: 5teve L on 15:24, Sun 27 February 2011
Rewired the loom last night so I can use the clio loom & ecu, 1. because my chipped ecu is from a clio & 2. because the wiring loom is slightly different & it means I can put the ecu in the scuttle area away from the bay. Also pulled all the wires not used out of the loom so it looks tidier.
Fingers crossed I will have the rest of the parts to build the engine next weds so Thurs it could be ready to put in & fit the loom up.
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Post by: Austin on 23:26, Sun 27 February 2011
been following this over on the clio forums !
looks great mate !
get cracking !
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Post by: hondaman on 23:43, Sun 27 February 2011
man your luck with engines is amaizing!!
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Post by: 5teve L on 09:14, Fri 04 March 2011
Small update as I have some more parts to fit & painted the block as well. (Mainly for James as I know he likes pictures  :mrgreen: )

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Post by: Ash-Lee on 09:25, Fri 04 March 2011
Progress!  8)
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Post by: 5teve L on 17:02, Sat 05 March 2011
Double checked the timing today & test fitted all the manifolds & alternator, I'm glad I did as the cambelt cover I was using wouldn't of let me use a shorter belt..... off came the cambelt & cover, on went the other one I had..
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Post by: James5 on 20:56, Sat 05 March 2011
Steve loving the pic's matey keep them coming, almost ready to drop it in matey :D
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Post by: scratcher on 18:12, Sun 06 March 2011
Good work Steve! Is this the final build up now? Can't wait to see this at the Surrey meets  :D
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Post by: 5teve L on 19:02, Sun 06 March 2011
Quote from: "scratcher"
Good work Steve! Is this the final build up now? Can't wait to see this at the Surrey meets  :D
Yes final build, just waiting for a couple of sensors & I need to get a few nuts & bolts.
Will fill it with oil tomorrow... then I need to think if the slam panel need chopping off or shall I add the inlet once in the car..hmmm..
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Post by: James5 on 19:40, Sun 06 March 2011
Add inlet once engine in car matey.   :D
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Post by: tubbyG on 21:24, Sun 06 March 2011
looking good!
That engine looks enormous compared to the little c1j :lol:
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Post by: markey mark (bd) on 21:16, Tue 08 March 2011
Quote from: "James5"
Add inlet once engine in car matey.   :D

Only trouble doing that if you leave slam panel on is you struggle to fit rad in after  :wink:
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Post by: James5 on 22:48, Tue 08 March 2011
Quote from: "markey mark (bd)"
Quote from: "James5"
Add inlet once engine in car matey.   :D

Only trouble doing that if you leave slam panel on is you struggle to fit rad in after  :wink:
:lol: didn't think about that, cut it out :D
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Post by: 5teve L on 08:11, Wed 09 March 2011
Quote from: "markey mark (bd)"
Quote from: "James5"
Add inlet once engine in car matey.   :D

Only trouble doing that if you leave slam panel on is you struggle to fit rad in after  :wink:

Bugger, didn't fancy cutting it out, oh well looks like the angle grinder will have to come out  :mrgreen:  Need to find someone braking a gtt so I can chop out the bit above the lights along a little  bit above the rad, then I can chop it about to bolt back together.
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Post by: 5teve L on 18:28, Sat 19 March 2011
Engine almost ready to drop in now, just need an oil filter & oil cooler, then I can drop it in & fit the rest in the car :)
Felt sorry for her today so gave her a wash & fitted one of my spax shocks.
Hope to fit the engine next week... fingers crossed !
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Post by: markey mark (bd) on 19:21, Sat 19 March 2011
Good going there mate, not far off now!  :wink:

One quick question, what you doing for a downpipe? Only reason i ask is i'm doing a Volvo conversion for my mate and am using the same turbo in same position but not too sure what to have done for the downpipe.
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Post by: 5teve L on 19:40, Sat 19 March 2011
Quote from: "markey mark (bd)"
Good going there mate, not far off now!  :wink:

One quick question, what you doing for a downpipe? Only reason i ask is i'm doing a Volvo conversion for my mate and am using the same turbo in same position but not too sure what to have done for the downpipe.
I'm hoping to get the one off Elcie (he bought the BB conversion off Sammo) to have copied by a bloke over the road from me, failing that I'll be tacking one up in-situ with the mig in mild & going from there, lol.
Just won a sidey off ebay for a bullseye & it comes with the cross over pipe so I'll chop that up, I already have the turbo flange, 19 off ebay.
Once the engine is in
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Post by: bazr5gtt on 05:02, Tue 29 March 2011
lookin sweet steve,cant wait to see this baby finished,keep those pics coming mate !!!!! 8)  8)
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Post by: 5teve L on 09:11, Tue 29 March 2011
Cheers Baz, it's just silly things now slowing me down.
Should have my oil feed adapter today so at least I can fit the turbo, may have to chop the oil drain down as at the mo it comes off 90 deg toward the block & I think it may get in the way of the starter  :roll:
After that I just need to get the engine in & get a downpipe sorted...... & hope it starts !
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Post by: James5 on 09:25, Tue 29 March 2011
Quote from: "5teve L"
Cheers Baz, it's just silly things now slowing me down.
Should have my oil feed adapter today so at least I can fit the turbo, may have to chop the oil drain down as at the mo it comes off 90 deg toward the block & I think it may get in the way of the starter  :roll:
After that I just need to get the engine in & get a downpipe sorted...... & hope it starts !


Can't wait for a video of it running being uploaded :mrgreen:
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Post by: gt alan on 15:31, Thu 31 March 2011
hay mate ur project looks to be going well, fair play u have put a lot of time and effort into it

just one question for ya what sort of cr ratio and u gonna be running with them skimmed pistons???
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Post by: 5teve L on 18:50, Fri 01 April 2011
Around 8.5:1 with standard gasket, 1.9mm shaved off the top of standard pistons, standard comp = 10:1
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Post by: 5teve L on 08:00, Tue 12 April 2011
Hoping to be able to crack on with this next week, been so busy with work lately just not had the time, plus I had run out of money, luckily a chq has turned up & sorted that one now !
Jobs left
Downpipe
dowty washers for the oil feed to block
a few nuts & bolts I seem to be missing
heatshield
injector o-rings
Rad & fan
fit fuel pump
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Post by: James5 on 11:28, Tue 12 April 2011
Quote from: "5teve L"
Hoping to be able to crack on with this next week, been so busy with work lately just not had the time, plus I had run out of money, luckily a chq has turned up & sorted that one now !
Jobs left
Downpipe
dowty washers for the oil feed to block
a few nuts & bolts I seem to be missing
heatshield
injector o-rings
Rad & fan
fit fuel pump


Steve, I can give you a hand doing matey, let me know when and I will come over :D
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Post by: Dave on 22:19, Thu 21 April 2011
Come on Steve what's going on with your 5 GTT.
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Post by: 5teve L on 09:18, Sat 23 April 2011
Been so busy of late with work, then spending time with family I lost all interest in the car... I need to pull my finger out next week though as we are moving in 3 weeks !
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Post by: GTTboost on 17:34, Sat 23 April 2011
Quote from: "5teve L"
Been so busy of late with work, then spending time with family I lost all interest in the car... I need to pull my finger out next week though as we are moving in 3 weeks !

That sounds like me last year..  but when you bring the 5 back out again, you end up getting hooked and cant leave the thing alone... even if you want to lol.
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Post by: H150GTT on 00:51, Sun 24 April 2011
Are you and james on the run or something????
The two of ya's seem to do nothin but build fast cars and move house  :lol:
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Post by: 5teve L on 16:41, Sun 24 April 2011
Quote from: "H150GTT"
Are you and james on the run or something????
The two of ya's seem to do nothing but build fast cars and move house  :lol:
Thats made me lol...  :lol:
We are moving to a bigger house across town  :wink:
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Post by: 5teve L on 19:40, Wed 27 April 2011
Had some bits turn up, nothing exciting though, injector O-rings & the fuel pump fitting kit  :roll:
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Post by: 5teve L on 21:43, Sat 30 April 2011
Engine is in  :mrgreen:  
Just a few niggly bits to sort like fuel lines, fuel pump, oh & I kept the oil return from the 200sx & can't fit the starter with it, bit of a doh moment  :lol:
Also got a couple of plugs left over & not sure if the alt will work, doesn't look right for some reason, lol. Also need to work out WTF to do RE: the coolant hoses  :?:

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My buddy John doinhg his best camera pose  :lol:
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Whats this for ?
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Is this Live as I have the earth to battery
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Clio brake level sensor ?
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Post by: James5 on 10:33, Sun 01 May 2011
Steve car was looking fantastic good to see the engine finally in the car, not long now and you wil be there :D
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Post by: 5teve L on 17:49, Thu 05 May 2011
Got a Pace oversized rad off Mike AKA GTTurbospares last night but it's to big, gutted  :(
So I have fitted the valver rad which is slimmer, had to angle it ever so slightly but it fits in nicely, also found some coolant hoses so I can get on with that now at least.
Just waiting for my downpipe to turn up, bit worried as I'm moving this weekend  :shock:
Fuel pump fitting kit arrived as well so I can also fit that... Hope to have it running in the next week or so..
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Post by: James5 on 18:57, Thu 05 May 2011
Quote from: "5teve L"
Got a Pace oversized rad off Mike AKA GTTurbospares last night but it's to big, gutted  :(
So I have fitted the valver rad which is slimmer, had to angle it ever so slightly but it fits in nicely, also found some coolant hoses so I can get on with that now at least.
Just waiting for my downpipe to turn up, bit worried as I'm moving this weekend  :shock:
Fuel pump fitting kit arrived as well so I can also fit that... Hope to have it running in the next week or so..


 :lol: Steve you can't do an update without any pics give me some pics of that valver rad in place :D
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Post by: 5teve L on 20:40, Thu 05 May 2011
Best I can do  :mrgreen:
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Post by: sammo_gtt on 21:21, Thu 05 May 2011
looking good steve, have you sorted your down pipe yet?
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Post by: 5teve L on 21:23, Thu 05 May 2011
Quote from: "sammo_gtt"
looking good steve, have you sorted your down pipe yet?
I found someone selling a K-tec clio turbo one, I'm hoping it fits, if not the grinder & welder will have to come out  :twisted:
still waiting for it though & I move this weekend, bit worried as I paid for it on the 25th April, all I can think is that the bank holidays have fooked things up  :(
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Post by: sammo_gtt on 21:31, Thu 05 May 2011
it will fit but its tight, touches steering colum rubber in the bay but its heat proof so it wont melt lol, its only 2 1/4 from what i remember though.. same as i had fitted to mine, have to mod/adapt where it meets the exhaust tho
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Post by: 5teve L on 21:35, Thu 05 May 2011
Quote from: "sammo_gtt"
it will fit but its tight, touches steering colum rubber in the bay but its heat proof so it wont melt lol, its only 2 1/4 from what i remember though.. same as i had fitted to mine, have to mod/adapt where it meets the exhaust though

Well I have a sidey as well so one of them will get chopped, the downpipe comes with a de-cat as well so maybe I can cut the flange off that & use it. If it looks to tight I'll cut the downpipe off & join it like the standard set up.
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Post by: 5teve L on 21:38, Thu 05 May 2011
What was yours like to drive ?
Went out in Turbo teds last night & it felt pretty strong & that was only running 4 psi !
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Post by: sammo_gtt on 21:40, Thu 05 May 2011
it wont take much work, all that youll need to do is sort the flange.. keep up the good work, looks good , o and wait till you hear the noise them engines make turbod with a sidey lol :)
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Post by: sammo_gtt on 21:44, Thu 05 May 2011
Quote from: "5teve L"
What was yours like to drive ?
Went out in Turbo teds last night & it felt pretty strong & that was only running 4 psi !
at a bar of boost with a standard c1j gearbox it span the wheels in 4th, was a monster.. i was runnig a gt2870rs tho so boost kicked in little bit later but really strong and hard.. was lovely to drive, very responsive.. im building another this year, just picked up another gt mint shell so engine build on the cards  :)
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Post by: davidbuttigieg on 23:06, Thu 12 May 2011
Hey mate,

what fuel pump are you going to use ?

and how are you going to feed that from the tank ?

cos i have a problem right now I need to gravity feed my pump as its an inline type and when its sucking fuel rather then being fed it makes a nasty whining noise..
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Post by: tubbyG on 23:16, Thu 12 May 2011
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture572.jpg)

with that bumper it looks so similar to your old 5 in this pic :wink:
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Post by: 5teve L on 16:54, Fri 13 May 2011
I'm using a bosch 044 fuel pmp, it fits in the same place as the standard gtt one, it's just sa bit bigger so needs a different cradle.... Or cable ties  :mrgreen:
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Post by: 5teve L on 19:39, Thu 19 May 2011
Small update as I managed to fit a few parts in the middle of moving house, I hope to get the car running this week as well as I just need to hook up the lives & fuel pump.
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Post by: nadgtt1982 on 20:39, Thu 19 May 2011
That pic from back looks sweet 8)  Getting there now
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Post by: 5teve L on 19:37, Tue 24 May 2011
Fitted the 044 pump & fuel lines, also sorted the downpipe to exhaust, as luck would have it I managed to chop down the de-cat & it fits snug into my k-tec sidey  :mrgreen:
Sorted most of the intercooler pipes as well, so nearly there.
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Post by: Ash-Lee on 20:42, Tue 24 May 2011
That exhaust was a lucky fit!  8)
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Post by: nadgtt1982 on 09:21, Wed 25 May 2011
nice use of the cable ties  :shock:  what a wonderful invention :)
of course i havent got any on my car  :lol:
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Post by: 5teve L on 13:58, Wed 25 May 2011
Quote from: "nadgtt1982"
nice use of the cable ties  :shock:  what a wonderful invention :)
of course i havent got any on my car  :lol:
Ah, it's only the fuel pump, it was far to big to fit into the OE cradle  :mrgreen:
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Post by: James5 on 14:22, Fri 27 May 2011
Can't beat cable ties fantastic invention.
 :mrgreen:


Steve, can't wait to see this up and running matey you must be on the final bits now :D
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Post by: Hurty on 17:41, Fri 27 May 2011
Really like this, i believe you're staff on a raider owners page on facebook steve?
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Post by: 5teve L on 23:31, Fri 27 May 2011
Quote from: "Hurty"
Really like this, i believe you're staff on a raider owners page on facebook steve?
Nah, thats prob big Steve, he's on here & RTOC  :wink:
Thanks for the comments though, I'm hoping it's not all going to be a waste of time & it will be the quickest home built  :mrgreen:
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Post by: GTTboost on 11:52, Sun 29 May 2011
nice work mate..   8)
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Post by: 5teve L on 19:49, Fri 03 June 2011
Minor set back meant the engine had to come out again, only took a few hours on my own & it's back in now & spins freely on the starter, couldn't check for spark etc as battery is flat & my jump pack is on charge...
Turns out there is a dowel at the back of the GTT gearbox that doesn't like to be in with the F7P fitted   :evil:  :roll:
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Post by: gareth on 00:28, Sat 04 June 2011
awsome mate stick in there thats gunna be well worth it
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Post by: 5teve L on 15:14, Sat 04 June 2011
Had the car started earlier, had to turn it straight off though as it revved up really high, not full throttle but scared the crap out of me, prob to do with the fact I had no hoses on the inlet & no throttlebody on  :oops:
At least I know it works anyway !  :mrgreen:
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Post by: tubbyG on 15:48, Sat 04 June 2011
nice work getting her going atlast  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 17:44, Mon 13 June 2011
The car is really trying my patience now, went over to it today & put all the hoses on, throttle body on, went to start it & it just turns on the key, doesn't want to catch at all, seems to have fuel, spark must be there as I had it backfire a few times when I swapped the leads about so I'm stumped. Tried removing the fuel pump relay in case it was flooded, changing leads around in case I had them wrong....
If it doesn't sort itself out soon I'll be breaking it as I've had enough now  :evil:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: James5 on 22:50, Mon 13 June 2011
She's doing exactly what mine was doing matey the F7P seem to flood bloody easily, remove the injector plugs and turn it over a couple of times.  You done this on mine and solved it bet it's the same thing
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 08:48, Sat 09 July 2011
Well it seems the problem was the followers getting air locked & not compressing as I had a little contact on the inlet on no.2 & the exhaust on no.4, none of the others & cam timing was spot on as I checked before & after.
Here are the valves once the head was off...

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Car%20stuff/Picture632.jpg)

Also not 100% happy with the block I used, it allways had a few light score marks, I thought they were honed out but they aren't as I can see them again now. I have another block so will drill it for the oil drain & give it a glaze bust & then transfer all the bits over. The block I have can be used for an over bore :) as I may start building a few bottom ends up  :mrgreen:


Now I'm uncertain which way to go with the car, do I drop the F7P turbo in it & sell it, do I return it to C1J & sell the engine, do I drop a standard F7P in it & sell it & keep the engine...
I really don't want the Raider anymore as it's been nothing but a problem car for me, plus the 19 is way more comfy & I have my heart set on a turbo conversion in that now  :twisted:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: James5 on 20:57, Sat 09 July 2011
F7p Turbo the 5 and sell it on and then turbo the 19 starting over again
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 14:03, Thu 21 July 2011
Nearly finished this now, I have the standard F7P engine in now with a williams manifold & downpipe, still need to wire the lives into their perm homes & find an exhaust for it, hope to have it running later though just to test it all works ok.

Then it will be for sale & I will be using the funds for my next project..... project R19 16v turbo  :twisted:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: James5 on 14:50, Thu 21 July 2011
Quote from: "5teve L"
Nearly finished this now, I have the standard F7P engine in now with a williams manifold & downpipe, still need to wire the lives into their perm homes & find an exhaust for it, hope to have it running later though just to test it all works ok.

Then it will be for sale & I will be using the funds for my next project..... project R19 16v turbo  :twisted:


Steve keep me posted on progress matey, we got a fair bit done last night 95% + done matey, just a shame battery was to weak to start the ole girl, but good thing is you had fuel, and engine cranked over for a bit, but as said to weak to for spark.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 17:11, Fri 22 July 2011
It's alive !
Standard F7P in there now with a willy manifold, just need to fill the gearbox, sort a few little bits & solder the main power wire in & it's ready to go. Need some bloody 2" exhaust clamps as well.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 16:50, Wed 27 July 2011
Actually drove her earlier, feels quite nippy for an N/A TBH.
Just need a rear no plate, nip exhaust up as it has a slight leak & fix slam panel on & then poss Friday it will be on it's way to it's new home, not that i'll be sad, fecking car has been a nightmare for me  :evil:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: Ash-Lee on 17:44, Wed 27 July 2011
Ah, shame it's going.

Have you even done any serious miles in it? I suppose you haven't had chance to develop that special bond!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: James5 on 18:13, Wed 27 July 2011
Quote from: "Ash-Lee"
Ah, shame it's going.

Have you even done any serious miles in it? I suppose you haven't had chance to develop that special bond!  :mrgreen:

He has definatly bonded with the car and they fecking hate each other

Steve good to hear it actually moved on it's on steam first time in 7-8 months.
 :lol:

Sure your not going to miss it
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 22:35, Wed 27 July 2011
Actually after driving it today it's not that bad in N/A form, just want to rev :mrgreen:

But nothing on this earth will make me keep it though, I think the wife will divorce me if I spend anymore time on it  :cry:

Everything seems to work on it as it should as well so it should be a good little car for the new owner.
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: James5 on 22:44, Wed 27 July 2011
Quote from: "5teve L"
Actually after driving it today it's not that bad in N/A form, just want to rev :mrgreen:

But nothing on this earth will make me keep it though, I think the wife will divorce me if I spend anymore time on it  :cry:

Everything seems to work on it as it should as well so it should be a good little car for the new owner.


After being in your 19 I was impressed at how they drive in n/a form, in turbo form it's awesome, your going to love it when you do the 19 turbo.

Good news to hear it all runs and all works aswell, as you say it will be a good car for the new owner
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: bazr5gtt on 12:57, Thu 28 July 2011
shame to see it go steve ,after all your hard work!!!!! :(
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: 5teve L on 17:44, Thu 28 July 2011
A couple of piccys of it finished.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Picture650.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Picture649.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/24175mypics2/Picture651.jpg)
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: bazr5gtt on 21:19, Tue 02 August 2011
looks well smart steve,like i said shame your selling her :cry:
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: James5 on 22:56, Tue 02 August 2011
Quote from: "bazr5gtt"
looks well smart steve,like i said shame your selling her :cry:


Selling it's now gone, and the bits for the new project have started to arrive
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: bod on 15:54, Wed 03 August 2011
Selling it's now gone, and the bits for the new project have started to arrive[/quote]

Its gone and the new owner is enjoying it.Shame i havent got mine back yet  :(

Luke
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: bazr5gtt on 21:36, Thu 04 August 2011
well keep us posted steve with your new project :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: Hurty on 12:24, Tue 09 August 2011
See you've got that decent halfords socket set, not a bad piece of kit that for the price :P
Title: Re: My Raider... now F7P project...
Post by: NorwegianGTE on 00:17, Tue 11 October 2011
Really cool car.. Blue always looks nice  :D