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Title: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 18:00, Fri 18 June 2010
with the weather being great I got wired into fitting my cossie fmic in yesterday (thanks dave). it was a little easier than I expected,  it fits pretty well behind the bumper except im needing to shave off a bit on the inside of the air vents so it sits a bit more flush. Would a belt sander be ok for that?? :D

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00015.jpg)

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC01037.jpg)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 20:45, Fri 18 June 2010
Looking good matey cossie cooler fits in very nice
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: Adam 005 on 23:09, Fri 18 June 2010
like it.looks good :D
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 13:00, Sun 12 September 2010
slight update:

the 5's been off the road till I got funds to sort her out. there was a really worrying noise from the gearbox, so thought best to not use it.
so over the summer I've got new carb, new clutch, L&B flywheel, gearbox, gt tuning carb top, green stuff pads, braided brake lines, uprated engine mounts. and waiting on piper 285, vernier pulley and B&M short shifter to arrive. 8)

Car was dismantled on fri and sat before work.  when we got the gearbox out, we noticed a hole the size of a 2p on its side with possible bearings floating about inside!  :shock:

will get pics posted later on with it going back together
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: andybond on 19:37, Sun 12 September 2010
Talk to me about this cossie cooler.

Whats it from, and whats its dimensions. I want one !  :D
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 22:04, Mon 13 September 2010
not quite sure on its exact dimentions, IIRC its only got 20sq cm area more on the face than the standerd cooler. - but i personally think its in a much better place for airflow 8)

Could be from a sierra cosworth? seen them on ebay a few times tho - not expensive either
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 23:49, Mon 27 September 2010
the little 5 next to my neighbours 2.8l capri   8)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC01175.jpg)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: sirrell on 08:07, Tue 28 September 2010
Looks like a nice fit, i just got a r21 top ic wich looks a similar size. Jut got to work out where i am going to mount it. ur engine bay lok good nice and black, u sprayed it all with wd40 ;)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 17:53, Fri 08 October 2010
so currently........
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC01177.jpg)

and have a few bits left to put on..
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC01176.jpg)

Quote from: "sirrell"
your engine bay lok good nice and black, u sprayed it all with wd40 :wink:
Not quite wd40....engine oil!! One of the oil breathers sheared off so oil vapour was pumping out of the tubing! hopefully the bay will look much better with a good clean and some more samco's. 8)
will get new phase1 fuel pump and relay on this wkend so maybe get her runnin.

and was wondering if anyone else with the tubular manifold has noticed any gains?
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: markey mark (bd) on 18:37, Fri 08 October 2010
I've worked on a few 5's with the tubular manifold fitted, to be honest didn't notice any real difference to cars with same spec and standard manifold.

Personally i'm not keen on those tubular manifolds and the early versions, prone to cracking, loose the burble sound from the exhaust and on some turbo/downpipe variations it hits it and won't fit on properly.
The standard manifold is suprising not too bad.
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 19:12, Fri 08 October 2010
Quote from: "markey mark (bd)"
I've worked on a few 5's with the tubular manifold fitted, to be honest didn't notice any real difference to cars with same spec and standard manifold.

Personally i'm not keen on those tubular manifolds and the early versions, prone to cracking, loose the burble sound from the exhaust and on some turbo/downpipe variations it hits it and won't fit on properly.
The standard manifold is suprising not too bad.
Quote from: "markey mark (bd)"
I've worked on a few 5's with the tubular manifold fitted, to be honest didn't notice any real difference to cars with same spec and standard manifold.

Personally i'm not keen on those tubular manifolds and the early versions, prone to cracking, loose the burble sound from the exhaust and on some turbo/downpipe variations it hits it and won't fit on properly.
The standard manifold is suprising not too bad.

cheers mark, im slightly gutted by your knowledge tho... i love the sound of the gtt! I've spoken to a guy who had one fitted and he claimed there was a difference of nearly 8bhp after fitting, but he couldnt be sure as he has the power tested before and after at different RRd's. not to worry, if I miss the burble too much then its goin on the bay.

anyone got any vids of the exhaust note with the manifold fitted?

cheers
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: markey mark (bd) on 19:22, Fri 08 October 2010
Take rolling road results with a pinch of salt mate, as you say your mate had it done at 2 different rollers so its not gospal.

K-Tec for example claim 20bhp with it but i don't see it at all, for a free flowing manifold its not very well designed for me.

Having it won't be no harm, as say do loose the burble abit but one good thing is it does look abit better then the rusty looking original!  :lol:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 13:05, Thu 04 November 2010
thought it was time for a wee update.......been pretty busy on the 5 last weekend, I had various parts stockpiled which I was wanting fitted so when the gearbox (only on a month) was making a horrible rattle I decided just to rip the engine out and set about getting everything sorted.
new gearbox was now needed as the old one seemed to POP when letting my mate hear the rattle so got a used one from cgb, Have a piper 285, vernier puley, uprated springs and tubular manifold all going on......  :D

stripping down
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00014.jpg)

engine out
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00023.jpg)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00026.jpg)

cleaned up the block (engine was coated in oil!)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00027.jpg)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00030.jpg)

cam and vernier pulley on
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00032.jpg)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00036.jpg)

this week a guy is looking to rebuild the head for me with the new springs and valve seals. also getting the valves reseated and ground. I just need to finish heatwrapping the manifold and downpipe. getting there slowly, will post up more pics this weekend when hopefully it will be all back together  8)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: nadgtt1982 on 19:10, Thu 04 November 2010
Im liking the work fella, cant have to many photos imo  :D . Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 13:17, Sat 06 November 2010
Quote from: "nadgtt1982"
Im liking the work fella, cant have to many photos imo  :D . Keep up the good work.
thanks mate, but after perving on all the fine work other members on here do to their 5's, I was getting really jealous! :mrgreen:
 so when finished will hopefuly get it set up proper and pull a bit more power from it. dunno what it was before, standard set up with t25 @14psi - 140bhp?
anyone got thoughts on what it could produce with the mods at 18-20psi?

cheers
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: Ash-Lee on 22:29, Sat 06 November 2010
I run 20PSI, no idea on what power it's making but it's an absolute riot to drive.  8)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 22:26, Wed 10 November 2010
Quote from: "Ash-Lee"
I run 20PSI, no idea on what power it's making but it's an absolute riot to drive. 8)

Whats the spec of your carb ash?
I need to get bigger jets for when I take it to get set up on RR but don't know what sizes I should buy, but there around 10 bucks each from k-tec so don't want to be paying for unneccesary ones!
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: Ash-Lee on 23:12, Wed 10 November 2010
Standard main
90 ac
140 2nd stage
200 needle

That overfuels a touch at 20PSI, i'm aiming for 22-24PSI. Should also note that's with the Phase 1 'uprated' fuel pump.
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 18:44, Fri 12 November 2010
Quote from: "Ash-Lee"
Standard main
90 ac
140 2nd stage
200 needle

That overfuels a touch at 20PSI, i'm aiming for 22-24PSI. Should also note that's with the Phase 1 'uprated' fuel pump.
cool, I recently had the phase 1 pump fitted, Is it possible to buy an anlarged 2nd stage from anywhere or is the only way of enlarging it done by drilling?
When I was on the phone to the RR guy he only said for me to get a new main jet, so will this not make it rich on normal driving but lean when on boost at higher pressures?....i need wideband :idea:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: markey mark (bd) on 19:38, Fri 12 November 2010
Quote from: "Phase2-tungy-gtt"
Quote from: "Ash-Lee"
Standard main
90 ac
140 2nd stage
200 needle

That overfuels a touch at 20PSI, i'm aiming for 22-24PSI. Should also note that's with the Phase 1 'uprated' fuel pump.
cool, I recently had the phase 1 pump fitted, Is it possible to buy an anlarged 2nd stage from anywhere or is the only way of enlarging it done by drilling?
When I was on the phone to the RR guy he only said for me to get a new main jet, so will this not make it rich on normal driving but lean when on boost at higher pressures?....i need wideband :idea:

No the 2nd stage jet is fixed so you can only drill it

If the rolling road guy said all you need is a new main jet then i would question using him to set the car up mate, thats totally the wrong thing to do.
That way will make it rich on idle and off boost driving and lean high up the revs

When getting someone to set your car up ask them if they do previous experience working on the 5's carb
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 20:21, Fri 12 November 2010
Quote from: "markey mark (bd)"
No the 2nd stage jet is fixed so you can only drill it

If the rolling road guy said all you need is a new main jet then i would question using him to set the car up mate, thats totally the wrong thing to do.
That way will make it rich on idle and off boost driving and lean high up the revs

When getting someone to set your car up ask them if they do previous experience working on the 5's carb
i thought so, cheers mark. Well I have heard really good things about this person and the work his garage carries out, but to be honest i am really limited to where i can go for tuning up here, The RR in question is 90 miles away and he does race and rally prep work and have been giong for a long time. He was sound to talk to on the phone and seemed welcoming and knowledgable, like I said, he told me to get back in touch with him when i have the new jets so we could talk. I will continue to look for someone who can set it up tho
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: markey mark (bd) on 21:48, Fri 12 November 2010
Not doubting his work at all but it always worries me when tuners say 'all you need is a larger main jet'. Thats not the case at all, i'm still using standard main jet and pushing out 220bhp.
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 20:15, Sun 14 November 2010
its been a busy weekend! got the engine dropped back in and plumbed in a few wires and hoses on saturday. picked up the cylinder head last night with piper uprated springs and new valve stem seals 8) . So today we finished up connecting everything else in the bay along with driveshafts, new oil and coolant.
dodgy camera phone pics...

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00053.jpg)

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00057.jpg)

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00054.jpg)

we managed to get it fired pretty easily(after a bump :wink: ) and it sounded well decent with the new cam and manifold on, but unfortunatley there was a water leak from inlet manifold so we had no pressure in the system....and lots and lots of steam!! will be back on the road soon - I cant wait!
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: markey mark (bd) on 21:21, Sun 14 November 2010
I would personally do something else with that oil breather filter, not ideal having it there.
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 21:38, Sun 14 November 2010
Quote from: "markey mark (bd)"
I would personally do something else with that oil breather filter, not ideal having it there.


Agree with Mark, if something does go wrong you really don't want oil on the hot turbo and exhaust manifold :lol:  

You really want to run a pipe to the OE oil seperator pot or run a pipe to a catch tank
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: Ash-Lee on 21:42, Sun 14 November 2010
That dizzy cap looks just what i need!

I have a problem with the spark arcing onto the boost pipe if the leads aren't 'just so'

What car is it off?
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 21:45, Sun 14 November 2010
Quote from: "markey mark (bd)"
I would personally do something else with that oil breather filter, not ideal having it there.
your right there, the old breather filter snapped off and the engine was completley covered in oily vapour evertime it was running. I dont have the OE oil sepatator, but catch tank should be an easy option. Does the catch tank only need one inlet pipe attatched to it, or will an oil return pipe be required aswell?
cheers
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 21:47, Sun 14 November 2010
Quote from: "Phase2-tungy-gtt"
Quote from: "markey mark (bd)"
I would personally do something else with that oil breather filter, not ideal having it there.
your right there, the old breather filter snapped off and the engine was completley covered in oily vapour evertime it was running. I dont have the OE oil sepatator, but catch tank should be an easy option. Does the catch tank only need one inlet pipe attatched to it, or will an oil return pipe be required aswell?
cheers


You block of the original return to sump and jsut run a pipe from the rocker cover to the catch tank and the other end on the catch tank is the breather unless you get a mocal were it just has 1 pipe and the cap breaths
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 22:00, Sun 14 November 2010
Quote from: "Ash-Lee"
That dizzy cap looks just what i need!

I have a problem with the spark arcing onto the boost pipe if the leads aren't 'just so'

What car is it off?
I had the same arcing problem, plus the leads were getting severley compressed and were in danger of breaking.  I got the 90 deg dizzy from Mike Phase1 16v. but I did find some similar ones on ebay sometime ago, unsure if they are exact fit tho but they were less than a tenner :D
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 21:00, Mon 15 November 2010
got the 5 home tonight! I took it for a 40ish mile detour along the back roads to help run in the engine (500 mile countdown begins)  :D  and to have a play with the carb. Apart from a bit of carb freeze and cutting out at junctions/traffic lights the engine and gearbox felt nice and tight, the new B&M shifter feels great- hardly any movement needed to slot it into gear...so overall really happy with the rebuild, the carb just needs a good tweak to get it right
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 21:18, Tue 30 November 2010
bad times :(
 my front bumper came loose on one side and dropped to the deck! luckily I was driving slow out of a car park, but bottom of bumper is fecked, maybe some fibre fill will sort it, and the driver indicator is smashed.
at the wkend I got it secured, and was attempting to change over my inlet manifold. I managed to get all nuts off except one! There is no access to it due to the new exhaust  manifold being in the way, so Is it possible to remove the exhaust manifold without taking the engine out?? - I cant be arsed doin it again! car is now garaged anyway (snow up here is intense) so have plenty time to get things sorted
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: Ash-Lee on 21:46, Tue 30 November 2010
It is possible to remove the manifolds with the engine in place.

There is just one nut that's tricky, the rest are reasonable. I find it easier doing it from underneath the car rather then trying to reach around everything.
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 22:27, Tue 30 November 2010
Quote from: "Ash-Lee"
It is possible to remove the manifolds with the engine in place.

There is just one nut that's tricky, the rest are reasonable. I find it easier doing it from underneath the car rather then trying to reach around everything.

now thats good news, thanks ash. I had horrible visions of having to remove the engine :roll: . that will be a job for when the weather calms down a bit. so did you manage to get hold of a 90deg dizzy?
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: Ash-Lee on 08:21, Wed 01 December 2010
I didn't find the dizzy cap, i still haven't looked though!

It's in the back of my mind with at least 100 of other things 'to-do'. I'll get there eventually.....

 :lol:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 19:46, Wed 05 January 2011
thought I would pull the finger out since the snow has dissapeared + you guys have been making good progress on your 5's recently.
yesterday i stripped down the front end, and picked up a blow torch this eve so tomorrow I will get the new front disks on with new indicators.
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00108.jpg)

im annoyingly struggling to change over the inlet manifold. One of the 2 nuts on the top/middle have rounded and access to the lower 2 is seeming impossible. Even from under the car i can not really get to the nuts! damm tubular manifold! - any suggestions?
im gonna remove the turbo and downpipe tomowwow but I am seriosly considering taking the engine out just for ease of access as it was all put together with engine outside of the car
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 10:58, Sun 09 January 2011
despite the weather going back to this...
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00113.jpg)
changed over the front disks, the old disks were in a right state. I cant believe they were even able to stop me! :shock: !
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00114.jpg)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00112.jpg)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 17:57, Thu 20 January 2011
revieved my new bonnet today!! 8)  its so light compared to the standard one I had on.

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00123.jpg)
its matt black. It has a few scrapes on it so will need to give it a respray to make it look nice. not sure whether to get it sprayed tungy, or keep it matt black, what do you's reckon?
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: nadgtt1982 on 21:19, Thu 20 January 2011
Looking good matey, id paint it body colour.
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 00:50, Sun 23 January 2011
Quote from: "nadgtt1982"
Looking good matey, id paint it body colour.

its gonna be tungy in the end, but since its cheap I will give it a nice coat of matt black for the time being. Seen a couple of pics of other 5's with black bonnet and they didnt look as bad as I thought :D
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 16:49, Sat 29 January 2011
a little update from today....
I have fitted new rear calipers with new copper piping and braided lines along with bonet vent surround.
 just need to bleed the brake system and get the handbrake tightened up which I will crack on with tomorrow.
got my bumper fitted securely, and new bonet lined up.
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00135.jpg)

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00138.jpg)

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00144-1.jpg)

Im loving the look of the bonnet - its looking mean!!
cant wait till I get it painted and on for good :D
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: small_all@hotmail.com on 17:39, Wed 02 February 2011
Quote from: "Ash-Lee"
It is possible to remove the manifolds with the engine in place.

There is just one nut that's tricky, the rest are reasonable. I find it easier doing it from underneath the car rather then trying to reach around everything.


dude 'Phase I 16 V Turbo' was selling em a while back
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 17:35, Sat 12 February 2011
today I fitted my chrome rocker cover (thanks James5) and hose from waterpump to degasser (thanks 5teve),  Bled the cooling system and tidied a few wires.........

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00161.jpg)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00156.jpg)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 20:26, Sat 12 February 2011
Looking good matey, get there with the bling :D
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 16:18, Sun 13 February 2011
Quote from: "James5"
Looking good matey, get there with the bling :D

Thanks James, its becoming quite addictive! I should be saving my money tho to get it back on the road but been having a crap time of late with my rear caliper so Im finding myself trawling ebay more often for cheap cheap shiny bits while I wait!
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 18:21, Sat 19 March 2011
a bit of progress today, have renewed all brake pipes on rear and bled the system - so its now back on 4 wheels :mrgreen:
also had a play with the carb to fine tune the idle, had a bit of white smoke to begin with due to not running it in ages but after a while it cleared.....nearly ready to get it down for its MOT :D  :D
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00251.jpg)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: Gav on 08:52, Wed 23 March 2011
thats some serious work keep it up!
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 14:46, Fri 15 April 2011
been to busy to mess with the 5 recently but its almost ready for MOT in a few weeks  :mrgreen:

needed some replacement front calipers as the bleed screws on mine effin siezed!! they were pretty dirty but work perfect, gave them a clean up and coat of paint.....not perfect but they look 1000x better.
(http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1290&pictureid=15819)
(http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1290&pictureid=15821)

and recieved these today :D
(http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1290&pictureid=15818)
they will be fitted tomorrow while I get one of the rears repaired.
going to give it a good clean this afternoon...
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: nadgtt1982 on 19:38, Fri 15 April 2011
Looking good matey, looks really tasty from the side angle in front of your garage 8)
keep it up
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 16:10, Sat 16 April 2011
Quote from: "nadgtt1982"
Looking good matey, looks really tasty from the side angle in front of your garage 8)
keep it up
thanks dude :D....

dropped off the wheels to get new tyres fitted and rear repaired but they wont be back till monday now :(

so gave it a good clean inside and out.....first time ever hovering the inside in 1.5 years!!!!

cage
(http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1251&pictureid=15822)
front with cheap & nasty halfords seat covers..
(http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1251&pictureid=15823)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 16:28, Sat 07 May 2011
Got my AEM wideband delivered this morning!!   :D

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00284.jpg)

Carb tuning here I come!!

next on the cards will be an enlarged downpipe to get it mounted and possibly a triple gauge holder for the dash to replace the single one i have currently
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 19:20, Sat 07 May 2011
Looking good matey can't go wrong with the AEM good bit of kit :D
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: lukeevangelou on 09:22, Mon 09 May 2011
Evil bit of kit!

gotta LOOVE this machine  :twisted:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: leekeefy on 20:41, Mon 09 May 2011
nice thread buddy :D
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 22:30, Thu 12 May 2011
well today the 5 had its mot...................and its gone and passed with no advisories!!!! :D

I had to get a new carb last week as the one I had on was ruined and was overfueling to fook and the mixture screw did absolutley nowt!
 
my dads mate has done an excellent job setting up the new carb and sorting electrics to get her through.

so it now idles at 800-900 rpm - quiet as a mouse...  So have been boosting about all evening - its been too long!! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 10:33, Fri 13 May 2011
went into college this morning only to be told 45 mins later that we can leave!! :D so I went and  took a few pics........
(http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1251&pictureid=16158)

(http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1251&pictureid=16160)

(http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=1251&pictureid=16155)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: nadgtt1982 on 18:48, Fri 13 May 2011
Well done fella on passing your MOT, ive booked mine in for next thurs just got to finish off the brakes now :roll:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 11:16, Sun 15 May 2011
Quote from: "nadgtt1982"
Well done fella on passing your MOT, ive booked mine in for next thurs just got to finish off the brakes now :roll:

thanks mate, im over the moon  :D ....good luck with yours, keep us posted

its great to be boosting again! I forgot how nippy these wee things are  :twisted:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 11:28, Sun 15 May 2011
I got on with fitting some new gauges yeaterday - the AEM uego, oil & boost pressure.

 behind the single gauge holder I had fitted was an mess of chopped and crimped wires!! - WTF previous owner!!
So after a bit of tidying/smashing through plastic/drilling we were all connected up!
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00285.jpg)

almost done
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00286.jpg)

done!
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00292.jpg)

Just waining on new downpipe with afr bung then will sort fueling and up "da boost" :lol:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 11:52, Sun 15 May 2011
Looking good matey, I will get that downpipe posted this week matey, it's off the 5 now :D
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 12:04, Sun 15 May 2011
Quote from: "James5"
Looking good matey, I will get that downpipe posted this week matey, it's off the 5 now :D

cheers James, No bother mate, whenever you can....You are understandably bust at the mo :wink:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 15:43, Wed 18 May 2011
finally managed to connect up my oil pressure guage today, and removed my dump-valve while I was there!!!  

 Chatter is sweet as  8)

  but nowhere near as loud as the old d.v...may need a rethink :!:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 23:29, Thu 26 May 2011
I have now fitted a 2.5' downpipe and connected up the sensor so my AEM now gives me readings :D

messed about with boost levels and it seems the "standard" carb I have fuels perfect for 12psi with my engine spec and turbo although rich at part throttle - this weekend i am going to be opening up the second stage a bit so I can get more boost, will be aiming for 18psi  :mrgreen:

Also got some side decals fitted. not 100+ replicas but 8 ebay specials  :lol:  

not 100% sure on them - they look pretty balls compared to the originals with the grey bit. from a distance I think they look good, but up close its easy to see their lack of quality.........what do you all think,    bin them?........or keep them??

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00311.jpg)

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00310.jpg)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: r5wiggs on 12:29, Mon 30 May 2011
Quote from: "Phase2-tungy-gtt"
I have now fitted a 2.5' downpipe and connected up the sensor so my AEM now gives me readings :D

messed about with boost levels and it seems the "standard" carb I have fuels perfect for 12psi with my engine spec and turbo although rich at part throttle - this weekend i am going to be opening up the second stage a bit so I can get more boost, will be aiming for 18psi  :mrgreen:

Also got some side decals fitted. not 100+ replicas but 8 ebay specials  :lol:  

not 100% sure on them - they look pretty balls compared to the originals with the grey bit. from a distance I think they look good, but up close its easy to see their lack of quality.........what do you all think,    bin them?........or keep them??

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00311.jpg)

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00310.jpg)
bin them your better off with the replicas
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 12:31, Mon 30 May 2011
been messing around with the carb jets all weekend. boost is now up to 18psi
im looking forward to having a play with some more powerful cars to see how the little 5 compares.

she fairly shifts now, dodgy on damp roads though -  wheelspins @75mph is scary! :shock:
Really curious on power output now so thinking of finding a RR to give me a rough idea, or maybe some 1/4m action :twisted:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 12:35, Mon 30 May 2011
Quote from: "r5wiggs"
bin them your better off with the replicas

I totally agree, but at the minute theres no way im paying around a ton for them!! maybe next year :lol:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: r5wiggs on 12:40, Mon 30 May 2011
Quote from: "Phase2-tungy-gtt"
Quote from: "r5wiggs"
bin them your better off with the replicas

I totally agree, but at the minute theres no way im paying around a ton for them!! maybe next year :lol:
i think someone on rtoc is doing a group bye have a look :mrgreen:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 12:43, Mon 30 May 2011
Quote from: "r5wiggs"
i think someone on rtoc is doing a group bye have a look :mrgreen:


 that rings a bell now you mention it........is it Raj??
I will have a search   :wink:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 14:37, Mon 30 May 2011
Yeah Raj is doing a set matey, I would bin what you have got and get a set of Raj's matey they look fantastic.
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 21:55, Sat 04 June 2011
had a bit of a play with my mate in his 2.8L 24v Z3 around some back roads and the little 5 did itself proud.. 8)  

coming out of corners and initial acceleration coming onto the dual carrigeway I was pulling away quite well, but I suspect that if we were to do a long stretch, he would take me (eventually)..

not bad for an engine half the size and a third of the valves  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 02:03, Sat 11 June 2011
the wastegate on my turbo gave up the other day. i had been putting more strain on it the last week and coupled with a mis-aligned bracket it caused it to shear
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00355.jpg)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00357.jpg)

I managed to pick up a good conditiont rear housing tonight so got the turbo out and dismantled.
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00362.jpg)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00361.jpg)

the old rear had 63 stamped in the elbow
the new one has 47,  it went back together no problems but as I have no ideas on what they represent, got  any ideas if the different rear end will make any difference to my turbo's performance?
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 11:07, Sat 11 June 2011
You may find with the smaller rear that it spools a little quicker and you might loose some top end power due to the smaller rear aswell matey
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 11:09, Sat 11 June 2011
Quote from: "James5"
You may find with the smaller rear that it spools a little quicker and you might loose some top end power due to the smaller rear aswell matey


But saying that if it's a T2 .63 rear and you have a .47 on there now you may not notice much difference as I think thet are pretty similar
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 17:07, Sat 11 June 2011
I have it all back together now and its running good again now some boost is going through it.  :D


thanks for the info James, now im not sure if its due to it being a different rear or the fact that I have it all tightened up properly but it does seem to boost up sooner, especially in 1st.

seeing as the weather is dry, I will be out giving the 5 some beans tonight!!  :twisted:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 21:23, Sat 11 June 2011
Quote from: "Phase2-tungy-gtt"
I have it all back together now and its running good again now some boost is going through it.  :D


thanks for the info James, now im not sure if its due to it being a different rear or the fact that I have it all tightened up properly but it does seem to boost up sooner, especially in 1st.

seeing as the weather is dry, I will be out giving the 5 some beans tonight!!  :twisted:


It will be the change in the size of the rear housing doing that matey bigger normally means laggier
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 16:46, Sat 18 June 2011
i've decided to go back to the standard bonnet for now due to all the rain recently - with my engine & heatwrap mega damp whenever I put the fan on, sh1t loads of steam gets pumped through the vents rendering my windscreen useless!!!! :shock:
as she is.....
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00365.jpg)

over the next week i will need to make a new actuator adjustment bitty cause max i can adjust the current (pikey) one to is 17psi and its way rich so bit more boost is needed :mrgreen:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 00:55, Thu 14 July 2011
got a new actuator bracket built up today and upped the boost a little, so now about 19.5-20psi.
with this boost I will prob have to start saving for a bigger turbo soon :mrgreen:

Its really hard to look at the boost guage and the wideband while trying to see where im going. but fueling is spot on bar running rich while town driving..... sitting at 10 with slight throttle cruising 30 - 40 mph.

 I have not enlarged the main jet only second stage and AC, any tricks on how to get better economy but keep the boost level?
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: bazr5gtt on 02:54, Tue 30 August 2011
hey tubby check out the diy section mate ,its all explained in there ,also steve L and james5 are legends for advice in this area ,just fire them a message bud !!! 8)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 13:01, Wed 31 August 2011
Quote from: "bazr5gtt"
hey tubby check out the diy section mate ,its all explained in there ,also steve L and james5 are legends for advice in this area ,just fire them a message bud !!! 8)

Cheers baz, yeah the article in the diy section is great and has helped me alot on understanding the carb. Main jet is standard,  I have only enlarged the second stage to 1.3 and dropped the a/c down to 0.9. This has given me great results on boost. The off boost conditions were poor before I changed jets as I had the wideband installed for a few days before messing with the carb.

Ive now got a 2mm needle valve which has stopped the bowl from emptying - the 5 flies up to 110 no bother now!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 14:02, Wed 31 August 2011
Needle jet not sealing properly
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 15:07, Wed 31 August 2011
It could be james, but It was the same conditions when I had the standard needle valve in there! Now I have a brand new 2mm needle from german ebay.

I may change the copper washer in the carb and tighten it up as much as I can, see if anything changes
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 15:12, Wed 31 August 2011
Quote from: "tubbyG"
It could be james, but It was the same conditions when I had the standard needle valve in there! Now I have a brand new 2mm needle from german ebay.

I may change the copper washer in the carb and tighten it up as much as I can, see if anything changes

Defo worth a try and what size main you using??  fuel pressure to carb? split gasket's is it a new gasket set??
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 16:10, Wed 31 August 2011
Standard main, thats why I was thinking of reducing it - then I would prob need to turn boost down. If it stays dry tonight I will take the top of the carb off and check everythig over
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 18:35, Wed 31 August 2011
Just replaced the carb body and double checked the jets.. So now:
120 main
1.3 second stage
Changed a/c from 0.9 to 1.00

Changed needle jet washer and made sure all was good and tight. Gonna be heading out for a run later so will see then if its made any difference
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 16:16, Mon 05 September 2011
Well I seem to be getting closer to getting the fueling sorted, I have replaced a couple of carb gaskets and washers, also adjusted the acc pump slightly which made a slight difference when cruising at light throttle - not sitting at 10 anymore, but there is only room for minor adjustment between bogging down/hesitating and better afr's.
Also had to lower boost a touch as I couldnt get the 0.9 A/C out of the old carb body.

Now I will have to change the starter motor for the second time in a month as it has died again  :evil:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 16:21, Sun 18 September 2011
I have now drilled out the second stage to 1.4mm and upped the boost a bit to 20psi  :D

While the carb was off I decided to paint some brackets from the bay to make things look more pleasing (http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00454.jpg)

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00453.jpg)
Clean parts

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00456.jpg)
As it looks now
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 12:16, Sun 25 September 2011
I have finally got round to overhauling the carb - and in turn have sorted out the afr's at light throttle  :D  so hopefully will get much better mpg as afr's are now 14-15 part throttle/cruising

before
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00462.jpg)

during
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00464.jpg)

complete :mrgreen:
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00466.jpg)

I believe this to be the culprit of the awful economy I was experiencing(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00467.jpg)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 12:23, Sun 25 September 2011
got tired of having to clean off all the oil vavour that had escaped through the rocker cover breather so decided to fit a pikey catch tank :mrgreen:

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00460.jpg)
works really well too!!!

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00461.jpg)

one of my pics for the rtoc renault turbo game :D
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC_0013.jpg)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 20:23, Sun 25 September 2011
Love the pic is that the loch ness monster in the back ground  :D


Sorry to read about your recent oil problem's defo comp test that engine, was it breathing really heavy before?
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: bazr5gtt on 21:55, Sun 25 September 2011
looking good mate ,tidied up that engine aswell ,keep the pics coming, 8)  8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 22:49, Sun 25 September 2011
Cheers James, it was breathing rathet alot thats why I saved up for a catch can   :lol:  :lol:

Not sure if the breathing was gradually getting worse or I was becoming more annoyed with wiping the bay down every week!!

Its not sounding too good at the moment, but will have a few hours tomorrow for some investigating. To try and get to the bottom of it  :(
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 14:46, Sun 09 October 2011
things have been s**t for my 5 the last fortnight. was out for a run then It suddenly felt like running on 3 cylinders. I got home (slowly :( ) and did some investigating.

one of the retaining nuts on the rocker arm came loose so valve no7 was not opening.

to make it worse. the nut went down one of the pushrod channels in the head so the only way I could remove it was to remove the head   :(
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC_0020.jpg)

back of the 5 now looks like this...
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00483.jpg)


whille head was off, did some tests and it looks like one, possibly 2 piston rings are worn.

so the 5 is off the road for the forseeable future till I can afford all the parts.

I am also considering selling my turbo to raise funds, its a turbo technics stage2 T25/2
http://www.turbotechnics.com/turbo/s117.htm (http://www.turbotechnics.com/turbo/s117.htm)

it has .48 cold side and now with a .47 rear. minimal side play, no in-out play.
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00482.jpg)
will come will a k-tec T3 actuator. Anyone interested drop me a PM.
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 16:51, Mon 10 October 2011
removed pistons & liners this afternoon with engine in situ....

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00484.jpg)

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00485.jpg)

was pretty straight forward, although I found it a bit awkward teasing the sump out between the subframe and engine mount - any tips to make it easier going back in?

just need to order up all the new parts and get the pistons to the engineers for new rings to be fitted and hone the liners  :D
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: Ash-Lee on 21:08, Mon 10 October 2011
Easiest way is to find something to take the weight of the engine and remove the engine mount that gets in the way. Although with some carefull manovering it is possible to refit it with the mount in place.

You will find it twice as hard to refit without smudging off the new sealant. A pig of a job which i have had the misfortune of doing more times then i would like.
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 22:28, Mon 10 October 2011
cheers Ash, I will try that and get the mount removed when I get round to refitting   :D
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 18:56, Tue 11 October 2011
Graeme, rust hole on inner wing look likes it needs some attention :shock:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 22:35, Tue 11 October 2011
in that last pic James?   :(                  thanks for the concern :D  :D

I had a cooland pipe split at the degassing pot some time ago and pink coolant soaked that area. The discoloured (rusty looking colour) is the paint that was affected. I had rubbed part of it with a sponge and the tungsten paint flaked off revealing the original white paint underneath.

I have been looking for a decent rattle can colour to re-do the bay in...Now seems a pretty good time to get it sorted as the engine is more or less in the boot............. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 10:11, Thu 01 March 2012
been a long time since I have updated this....

about 2 weeks after I replaced the rings etc I had major engine failure.... I initially thought that I had spun a bearing or something........... but once I stripped the engine I soon realised it was MUCH worse  :(

A conrod tried to escape through the front of the block  :lol:
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC00561-Copy.jpg)

the completley mangled piston & liner

(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC_0019-2.jpg)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC_0016-2.jpg)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC_0018-2.jpg)

so since then I have bought a standard bottom end which I have completley rebuilt. as well as poly-bushing the front end and replacing whishbones, track rods and ball joints, rear disks and pads.
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/wishbones.jpg)

the new engine will be of slightly higher compression to the last one, namley due to a slightly skimmed head and ditching the low comp pistons setup and using standard comp pistons
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC01437.jpg)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC01442.jpg)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC01445.jpg)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC01460.jpg)

so this is where im at now  :D   engine is good to go  8)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC01477.jpg)

I just need to repaint part of the bay and the lump is ready to be dropped back in this weekend  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: hughesrobert13 on 21:47, Thu 01 March 2012
hope the new lump works out well for you mate.
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: nadgtt1982 on 12:46, Fri 02 March 2012
Good luck matey, you lot get knocked down and just keep getting up again  :)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 06:08, Mon 05 March 2012
thanks guys - I just hope this engine works as it should (lasting more than 5 mins) being my first build :D
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 13:39, Mon 05 March 2012
Fingers crossed for you Graeme :D

Do you know how thick your cylinder head is?? prob with running higher comp is det / knock matey.  Might be worth investing in det scope so you can make sure you keep the car tune on the correct side of it :)
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 17:53, Mon 05 March 2012
cheers James, I hope I have some luck with this one :D  

I had the head measured at 73.3mm.....so its not had a bad life and been skimmed to death :lol:

so engine will only be slightly higher comp than standard ( i think/maybe not with the h/g :?: ) ... I tried using a comp ratio calculator online but I got a little confused on what values it was asking for. So I ditched it!


 I will not be running any boost - or maybe just a little... for a while till I rack up some miles, so I will see if I can make some det cans in the mean time! although I would not have a clue what to listen for :mrgreen:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: James5 on 08:31, Thu 15 March 2012
So how's the car doing Graeme, been 10 days  :lol:  you broken it yet  :lol:
Title: Re: tungy
Post by: tubbyG on 19:53, Thu 15 March 2012
:lol:

cheers James.....I have not really driven the 5 properly yet!  I am dying to though!. I have been mad busy with work/uni assesments I have not had much time.  I have had it out my parents garage a couple of times and around their area to check everything works with no leaks...... it sounds awesome with the standard exh mani back on & sidey  :mrgreen: ! - really happy with it :D

I have changed the oil+filter twice though in this short time! and I think I am going to be really strick with it so it wont break on me! - Im sure I will lose the fear (of breaking it) once im boosting properly!

my mate is coming round tomorrow so we will be attacking some electrical gremlins and giving it a good clean!

freshly de-rusted & painted
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC01479.jpg)

and here it it all back in 8)
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac2/Phase2-tungy-gtt/DSC01488.jpg)